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Proctor For Sale

Proctor V for sale on ebay, in New Zealand.

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By: Tin Triangle - 2nd May 2014 at 10:02

Brilliant stuff! Glad to see her out of the dusty shed and ready for some TLC!

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By: TonyT - 2nd May 2014 at 09:27

Nice one John

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By: John Hill - 2nd May 2014 at 04:54

Heading for the farm gates..
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An hour or so later and safe in our hangar…
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Ooops! Looks like the Bedford has sprung a leak!

The wings and horizontal stabiliser, elevator etc were collected earlier.

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By: John Hill - 2nd May 2014 at 04:52

At last the rain stopped for the last stage of the journey for Proctor ZK-AQK..

A short tow from her shed where she has been for several years and through the lush green pastures of Rangitata!
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Careful loading on the transporter..
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She wont be going anywhere we dont want her to with all these strops on her..
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By: John Hill - 11th April 2014 at 00:41

TonyT, moves have been done in NZ using a trailer and a wooden beam under the wheels.

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By: TonyT - 10th April 2014 at 22:31

One mentions trailer one away? Ask how he did it..

http://rnzaf.proboards.com/thread/20725/proctor-sale

http://www.modelflight.regheath.com/mf149/fullscale.htm

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By: TonyT - 10th April 2014 at 22:24

Scrolling down he bottom of this, there is one that appears to be using something like a steel tube across the flatbed supporting the forks

http://www.goodall.com.au/australian-aviation/percival-proctor/percival-proctor.html

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By: TonyT - 10th April 2014 at 22:10

Mine are metal, but I often use old tyres with old carpet over them, I’m not so sure about wood though.

Though as said, best place is sat in the legs, won’t the truck driver have outriggers for stuff like this?

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By: John Hill - 10th April 2014 at 11:16

Thanks TC.
We dont want to tow her backwards as most of the trip would be on State Highway One and if the wheel should go over the edge of the seal (shoulder), which would be very likely, that would put a terrific strain on it in the direction the leg is not stressed for. I have seen a photo of a Proctor with a ‘broken leg’ through doing that and it did not have the engine in but ours has and will be consequently heavier. The distance is about 60km, rough guess, at least three bridges and god knows how many milk tankers along the way! The road for most of the way is just single lane each way.

Is the cabin flat underneath? I am thinking if she is flat underneath of a full sheet of ply with the strops under that. With a rubber mattress on the ply that could sit on the truck deck with the legs hanging down. I really dont want to make it difficult for the guy with the truck.

I would love to see her back in the air but ours is an all volunteer museum with limited resources. We have almost three dozen aircraft now but the very best we can do for them is to assemble and paint them and keep them dry and warm. Maybe some of them will be in the air again one day and we try not to do anything that would complicate someone doing that but in the meantime we just keep them cozy and show them to the public seven days a week. Some of our aircraft were flying until they went into our hangar, Simmonds Spartan is fully airworthy, the DC3 was in the air until a few weeks ago but finally ran out of “papers”, the Tri-Pacer and the Beech Skipper flew here and the Tiger Moth was airworthy when she went into the hangar. Some of the gliders are airworthy. I hope you can visit us one day!

Maybe oneday she will fly again but meanwhile she will be in a cosy hangar looking her best until her Prince Charming comes to call, (not saying we would want to part with her or any of the others though!)

So what do you think, would she be happy sitting on the truck on a rubber mattress with the legs dangling down?

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By: Arabella-Cox - 10th April 2014 at 09:39

Not sooner said than done………….!!!!

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By: Tango Charlie - 10th April 2014 at 09:27

Hi

ZK-AQK has been bought by the Ashburton Aviation Museum where we will restore her for exhibition.

But first we must move her from Rangitata to Ashburton which will most likely be done by truck and we need to do this soon.

Can anyone please help with advice regarding lifting points? Lifting at the wing attachments using a spreader bar? Sling around the engine mounts? I assume there are ‘official’ lifting points on these aircraft?

Thanks.

John, you need to lift using a minimum 150 mm 6 inch wide strop both front and behind the wing centre section to spread the load. We removed the U/C wheels complete and sat the legs on the forks in extensions to the trailer bed to accommodate the wheel base which as you know is quite wide. Not sure of the distance between Rangitata to Ashburton, towing her backwards on her U/C could be a possibility?
In our experience moving Proctors across Europe this was best done at night and the early hours. I am not aware of any official lifting points (only jacking points) we used a photo reference of a Mk V being lifted via a sling dock side into a ships hold for export to Australia in 1949 for our inspiration. Good luck, but why not consider a rebuild to flight instead of a museum piece?

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By: Arabella-Cox - 10th April 2014 at 09:00

John…….

I am sure Tango Charlie or one of his team from Great Oakley will be along with all the information you require. They have moved a few Proctors in their time…..

Good to hear another Proctor will be receiving some TLC……….

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By: John Hill - 10th April 2014 at 01:16

Proctor ZK-AQK

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ZK-AQK has been bought by the Ashburton Aviation Museum where we will restore her for exhibition.

But first we must move her from Rangitata to Ashburton which will most likely be done by truck and we need to do this soon.

Can anyone please help with advice regarding lifting points? Lifting at the wing attachments using a spreader bar? Sling around the engine mounts? I assume there are ‘official’ lifting points on these aircraft?

Thanks.

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By: flyernzl - 4th March 2014 at 20:15

It would be nice to see it back in the air.

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By: Tango Charlie - 4th March 2014 at 19:07

Unlikely, no bids received, no feedback left.

This is a very complete aircraft, a great project. What it needs is a group in the UK to bring her home and commence a rebuild. A Proctor V makes a great touring aircraft, capacious inside and nice to fly.
Taken on as a group project with members who can chop,glue and screw wood, the costs would be maintained at a very reasonable level. Going the commercial rebuild route is financial suicide.
A double garage or large garden shed is all that’s needed for component rebuild, final assembly would need to be at an airfield. rebuilding a Proctor is little different to a large R/C model
all drawings are available and technical expertise at hand as required. None of our four Proctors was anything close to the condition of this machine, please don’t tempt me! Price is very reasonable.
Out of around 1500 Proctors built there are less then 50 survivors worldwide so a very worthwhile project. Modern glues (Aerodux) will ensure longevity, casein glues used originally failed dismally.
Scores of Proctors and Miles types were burnt in the 50’s and 60’s for no other reason other then glue failure with repair or rebuild just not economical. Remember the Jap car invasion in the early 70’s
killing the UK car industry, think Cessna and Piper in the late 50’s killing off British wooden light aircraft types.

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By: Newforest - 4th March 2014 at 17:39

Unlikely, no bids received, no feedback left.

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By: avion ancien - 4th March 2014 at 17:29

Did it sell?

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By: flyernzl - 3rd March 2014 at 23:31

I saw it a couple of years ago.

Looks complete, but pretty rough. Would need a total rebuild.

Last flown in 1965.

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m169/flyernzl/Percival/ZK-AQK_IMG_8386-Edit_zpse076aaa1.jpg

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By: Newforest - 3rd March 2014 at 12:58

Guess we don’t all check the E-Bay thread regularly, so nice to know about this large item! 😉

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By: Snoopy7422 - 3rd March 2014 at 11:33

This was already covered in the eBay thread.

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