October 6, 2015 at 12:57 pm
Can anyone help please. I have some poor copies of Percival model shop drawings which I am re-drawing. They generally seem to be pretty good. However on two drawings for the Proctor III the distance between the wing trailing edge and the tailplane leading edge don’t match.
This is required for a model drawing so can anyone with access to a full size Proctor help please..
Thank you.
John
By: Dev One - 8th October 2015 at 12:50
John,
OK I will create a .dxf for you, will you PM me your e-mail Address please.
Keith
[edit] See your PM for a dropbox link to my .dxf drawing.
K
By: John Aeroclub - 8th October 2015 at 12:40
Keith,
I think I can read .dxf.
Cheers
John
By: Dev One - 8th October 2015 at 07:53
John, I no longer have coreldraw, but I think it might read .dxf format or even .dws. If it does I can save AutoCad drawings in those formats for you.
Keith
By: John Aeroclub - 7th October 2015 at 22:13
Hi Dev One
Thank you for your input.
Unfortunately I don’t have Autocad, I’m one of the last of the “hand and eye guys” in the plastic model kit world. I use Coreldraw for all my drawing and design work. It’s my suspicion that the 112″ is a point to point measurement rather than between verticals in a rigging position. So taking the 112″ as a hypotenuse this gives me a rough guide as to the distance between rigging verticals and my drawing is in the horizontal with a guide line through the wing TE. I can work out the length of the vertical of the tri-angle I expect the figure (by measuring in Coreldraw) to be around 106″” which will tell me which drawing is suspect. How long since I did the square on the hypot….
John
By: Dev One - 7th October 2015 at 20:01
John,
Can you read Autocad 2002 drawings? I made mine from photos & available info back in 2008 when creating my Proctors for Flight Sim 2004 (which are still available at Britsim & Flightsim). It is though very possible that my dimensions are a fluke, knowing only the span & length at the time! My scaled drawing for that distance is 113.6 inch, tail up. I suspect Top Cat’s dimension is tail down as thats how ‘KEX is at the moment! (Sorry Mike).
If you can read AutoCad I can put it up on my Dropbox for you, just leave a PM here or at cbfsim, Soh, or Flightsim of you e-mail addy.
Regards
Keith
[edit] Just looked at my Gmax models for the Mk I & the Mk IV. respective dims tail up are 112.95 for Mk I, 120. 48 for Mk IV, but those are my educated guesses back then!
K
By: avion ancien - 7th October 2015 at 19:45
It looks as if you’ll have to take a trip down to Great Oakley with your tape measure, John!
By: John Aeroclub - 7th October 2015 at 19:26
Ha! this has thrown the pussy-cat amid the pigeons. The only one of the drawings to agree with the wing TE to tail LE figure of 112″ is that for the Proctor IV, whist all the others, Vega Gull III, and the two Proctor III drawings hover around the 108″ mark to the tailplane LE. I’m using Gearing’s book as reference to the dimensions. The drawings (poor copies) came from the late Mike Eacock who was an ex and passionate Percival stress man. Gearing eludes to the fact of the Mk IV rear fuselage was lengthened,
but he says nothing about the changes to the front fuselage to make up the roughly 2′ 4″ that the Proctor IV gained over the III. Was the 112″ measurement taken between perpendiculars on a horizontal fuselage,or slant?
Sorry to be a bother.
John
By: John Aeroclub - 7th October 2015 at 15:54
Than you for your trouble. That is excellent.
Best regards
John
By: Tango Charlie - 7th October 2015 at 14:47
Thank you.
John
John, here we go. I have measured from the trailing edge of the centre section to the leading edge of the tail plane and confirm 112 inches or 2845 mm. Hope this assists.
By: John Aeroclub - 7th October 2015 at 12:04
Thank you.
John
By: Tango Charlie - 6th October 2015 at 16:10
Can anyone help please. I have some poor copies of Percival model shop drawings which I am re-drawing. They generally seem to be pretty good. However on two drawings for the Proctor III the distance between the wing trailing edge and the tailplane leading edge don’t match.
This is required for a model drawing so can anyone with access to a full size Proctor help please..
Thank you.
John
Stand by John, need to get across to the workshop and measure our Mk 111. Back early next week latest.