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Prop ID -please help

Hey all,
I picked up this Propellor blade this week…mounted in a hub.
Anyone care to try and ID it? The previous owners daughter said she thought it was spitfire as her Dad flew them in South Africa during the war…I’m not 100 % convinced it is Spitfire….is it potentially hurricane?

I’ve added a couple pictures of the hub stampings and a General Picture of the unusual mounting:D

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By: Arabella-Cox - 26th October 2012 at 15:47

What you have there is a Weybridge blade Drawing Number DR 513 used on a number of Rotol propellers fitted to Hawker Hurricanes and Fairey Fulmers.

Anne

I assume that is Fulmar MkII?

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By: ausflyboy - 26th October 2012 at 13:27

Awesome work chaps!! So its looking like my hunch was correct about Hurricane 😀 The Provenance of which is even stronger as the South African Air Force operated a few!

Awesome work all , it has been greatly appreciated!

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By: MerlinPete - 26th October 2012 at 10:07

What you have there is a Weybridge blade Drawing Number DR 513 used on a number of Rotol propellers fitted to Hawker Hurricanes and Fairey Fulmers.

Anne

Would that be applicable to the Fulmar I with the R5 hub?

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By: anneorac - 26th October 2012 at 09:52

What you have there is a Weybridge blade Drawing Number DR 513 used on a number of Rotol propellers fitted to Hawker Hurricanes and Fairey Fulmers.

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By: MerlinPete - 25th October 2012 at 22:56

RA tells you it’s a Rotol blade. Def Hamilton Standard Hydromatic type hub.. Tiny clarification – If it’s a Ham Stand 23-E-50 then to be from a Hurricane it would have to be a Hurricane with a US Packard Merlin (Canadian?) – UK Merlins would require a 23-E-X ((X indicating “foreign” spline type). However, I imagine the 54770 is also appropriate to the 23-E-X, so this is also feasible? Merlin Pete?

Yes, that’s right, I forgot to mention that, it is the same part for a 23-EX.

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By: Beermat - 25th October 2012 at 20:21

RA tells you it’s a Rotol blade. Def Hamilton Standard Hydromatic type hub.. Tiny clarification – If it’s a Ham Stand 23-E-50 then to be from a Hurricane it would have to be a Hurricane with a US Packard Merlin (Canadian?) – UK Merlins would require a 23-E-X ((X indicating “foreign” spline type). However, I imagine the 54770 is also appropriate to the 23-E-X, so this is also feasible? Merlin Pete?

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By: ausflyboy - 25th October 2012 at 12:09

Righty O, After some considerable persuasion I managed to extricate the prop from the hub.
A quick clean with some acetone to strip the grey paint off has revealed these!!

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Do any of these make sense to anyone?

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By: Arabella-Cox - 21st August 2012 at 19:20

prop i/d

It must have been a fluid de-iced prop because the fluid slinger ring is still in place (mounted on the hub/barrel rear face, not on the base of the blade, BTW).

Of course, it’s possible the blade didn’t come from the hub it is mounted on. It may have just made a convenient heavy base.

As Merlin Pete says, the hub/base isn’t Spitfire as these type of hubs weren’t used on them. They were used on lots of types – including Hurricanes. The blade does look like it could be Spit Mk.IX to me, though. The elusive part number will tell;)

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By: MerlinPete - 21st August 2012 at 13:15

That`s right. 54770-2 is the correct part number for a 23-E-50 rear barrel. It could be from a Hurricane, but could also be from numerous other types.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 21st August 2012 at 12:53

It looks like a late Hamilton Standard 23E50 hub, with a Rotol blade (Stripped of its covering) stuck into it.

Blade ID; have a look at the adaptor collar for stamping/engravings (where the blade wood enters the adaptor).

Hub can not be Spitfire. Don’t know about the blade, but suspect not.

DAI

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