January 7, 2018 at 5:25 pm
I love Tiger Moths and am very interested to know.
By: Propstrike - 14th January 2018 at 18:14
Flying scholarships available right now . ‘Paid for’ Licence !
By: Spitfiresrule - 14th January 2018 at 17:13
Thanks to all that replied!
By: Moggy C - 8th January 2018 at 07:17
Or learn to fly at Cambridge where you can do your PPL on the Tiger Moth ab initio
Moggy
By: Sopwith - 7th January 2018 at 22:05
They are eligible for operation on a LAA permit to fly now, so that would bring operating costs down a bit, still thirsty on fuel and oil though. If you are handy you could do your own maintenance, recovering etc under a LAA inspector’s supervision. Insurance could be cheaper if you didn’t have hull insurance. Depends how you go about things but it will still be quite costly. Propstrike obviously knows you as he states in post5 that you’ve not got your licence yet so as he says get well checked out on tailwheel stuff before going for a Moth, then get someone well versed with a Tiger Moth to check you out in one. Good luck and go for it if that is what you want.
By: DH82EH - 7th January 2018 at 21:50
I operate my 82A “CF-MAD” in Canada with two partners.
Much of what has already been posted is fairly accurate.
Two of us are Aircraft Maintenance Engineers. Which is the only way I could afford to fly this.
If I had to pay someone for all the effort, skill and labour that we have put in to it, well forget it.
Even still, operating with partners is a lot more fun.
The Tiger is not a practical aeroplane, so having friends to share in the fun and frustration is great.
I absolutely love flying it, sharing it and working on it. This grand ol’ gal is a blast.
Andy
By: Moggy C - 7th January 2018 at 21:45
Most of the figures above are in the ball park. You can knock a bit off if you are in the north of the UK, add a fair bit if you are in the South East.
Joining a group makes by far the most sense. Aircraft hate not being flown, far better to split the cost of purchase and ownership with a like minded group.
Moggy
By: Arabella-Cox - 7th January 2018 at 20:27
Also explains why more than a few Tigers are operated by syndicates…. Plus the extra ground crew comes in handy…!!!
By: avion ancien - 7th January 2018 at 20:23
It’s tempting to trot out the old adage – if you need to ask the price, you can’t afford it.
By: Propstrike - 7th January 2018 at 18:38
As you do not have a licence at present, consider a PPL on Super Cubs ( various places offer this) as it will give you a better grounding for tail-skid aircraft.
If funding is a snag ( when isn’t it ) consider glider training as a good basic grounding. The Upward Bound trust is set up to help young people.
http://www.ubt.org.uk/#
By: Propstrike - 7th January 2018 at 18:17
£40 K for a tired but serviceable one, up to £75K for a good one with new fabric and a low hours engine. Re-fabricing could be heading for £20K , a new engine rather more.
Hourly rate depends on usage, but probably £150 an hour upwards. Some shares are available here and there, and probably are an easier way into Moth ownership.
They are very different to more modern types, and rather easy to bend (or worse) and are over represented in the accident stats. Avoid hard runways and crosswinds. Good fun though, if you have the right stuff.
DH Moth Club will have chapter and verse, and will welcome serious enquiries, as the Moth scene needs new enthusiasts ( preferably under pensionable age ) .
By: Tango Charlie - 7th January 2018 at 18:10
Bank on anything from £45,000 to £60,000 for an airworthy example. Hangarage average cost around £2,800-00 per annum less if you have your own strip and hangar. Annual C of A £3,000, insurance £900-00, hourly fuel and oil £45-00 to £50-00
Fifty hour checks £350-00 to £400-00. On top of that allow for any of the usual incidentals, tyres, spark plugs etc. I don’t think these figures will be miles out.
By: ozplane - 7th January 2018 at 18:07
The simple answer is a lot. Ballpark figures might be:-
Hangarage (if you can find it) £120-£300 per month
Fuel 6 gals/hr £50 per hour
Oil £3/hr on a good engine
Insurance Upwards of £1000/year depending on experience and hull value
Maintenance £2000 per year but highly variable
But the elephant in the room is the engine. A rebuild on one at our strip cost £24K and led to the group folding
I’d have a trial flight first and see if you really enjoy it. Hope this helps.