April 23, 2004 at 3:29 am
I find the exploits of this little Polish fighter rather interesting, and it caused me to wonder.
Are any of these machines still in existance?
If so, would any be in good enough condition to restore to flying condition. You have to admit it would be a very exotic and awesome addition to the warbird community.
By: Arthur - 23rd April 2004 at 20:52
The Krakow museum definately has a few authentic gems from the sticks, fabric & wire-era. Original Albatroses (of the German biplane kind), a Halberstadt… It even got me interested in those flying handkerchiefs for a while, but then my attention switched to the parrafin burners again – of which their collection is also very interesting.
Nice detail about the P11c is that back in 1939, it was actually based at Krakow-Rarowice which is now the museum site. It literally is back home now.
Here is the museum’s collection, from the site at http://www.muz-lotnictwa.krakow.pl/estrona.html
By: robbelc - 23rd April 2004 at 18:48
I saw it in a very dark and damp hangar at Krakow in 1992,very impressive. I think it has a strange history in that it was captured by the germans and put on show in the Berlin museum. When the museum was bombed, along with many others it was moved to Poland where it was captured once more! This time by the Russians. I think it was one of the first aircraft restored when the museum came into being.
Their store was an amazing place with a few of WW1 aircraft that I had never heard of and the record breaking ME109.
By: GZYL - 23rd April 2004 at 18:28
This aircraft also had some success against Bf 110’s.
By: VoyTech - 23rd April 2004 at 12:55
Originally posted by JDK
There’s one authentic survivor. It was taken to some airshows and run up in the last few years.
They’re having an air show at the Museum 26-27 June, and I’d be surprised if the P.11’s engine does not run then.
Even more interestingly, there was a proposal to build a short batch of them as new-build replicas. If you’ve got a lot more money that sense, I could find out for you!
I’m afraid this idea went down with Mark Hanna who supported it vividly…
But if anyone is interested, I can put you in touch with the guys on the engineering side of the ill-fated project.
By: JDK - 23rd April 2004 at 09:35
There’s one authentic survivor. It was taken to some airshows and run up in the last few years.
There’s a VERY good book all about them at www.mmpbooks.biz funnily enough! 😉 (Before Mike J says anything.)
Even more interestingly, there was a proposal to build a short batch of them as new-build replicas. If you’ve got a lot more money that sense, I could find out for you!
A great aircraft. Ready two years early for W.W.II yet achieved some very valient kills of Bf109s and He111. The first of W.W.II (that’s for the other countries that joined later, like the US, oh, and Britain, Australia, Canada etc, etc… 😀 )
By: Stieglitz - 23rd April 2004 at 08:51
Originally posted by Steve Bond
I have a feeling it is the sole survivor.
Yes Mr Bond, that is right. As I also believe there is only one PZL P.11 left so here is the sole survivor of the type:
I found this pic on the net:
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By: Steve Bond - 23rd April 2004 at 08:21
There is one in the Polish Military Museum in Krakow. I have a feeling it is the sole survivor.