November 14, 2004 at 2:45 pm
Why did Qantas stop flying to Manchester ?
By: David Kerr - 15th November 2004 at 19:02
The feeder has to be operated as a QF service and not as a codeshared BA shuttle services as the slots being protected are QFs.
Heard of grim stories that the one of the MAN hierarchy thinks there’s nothing wrong with airlines codesharing into MAN rather than flying their own metal instead 🙁
By: David Kerr - 15th November 2004 at 19:02
The feeder has to be operated as a QF service and not as a codeshared BA shuttle services as the slots being protected are QFs.
Heard of grim stories that the one of the MAN hierarchy thinks there’s nothing wrong with airlines codesharing into MAN rather than flying their own metal instead 🙁
By: Pablo - 15th November 2004 at 00:42
Having a feeder service strikes me as unnecessary when Qantas codeshare on practically all BA shuttle services from the UK regions to LHR. Maintaining the slots by using a 146 must surely be uncommercial; I’m sure if Qantas wanted to reinstate a full service operation to Manchester, the airport authorities would try to be as accommodating as possible.
By: Pablo - 15th November 2004 at 00:42
Having a feeder service strikes me as unnecessary when Qantas codeshare on practically all BA shuttle services from the UK regions to LHR. Maintaining the slots by using a 146 must surely be uncommercial; I’m sure if Qantas wanted to reinstate a full service operation to Manchester, the airport authorities would try to be as accommodating as possible.
By: LBARULES - 14th November 2004 at 19:21
Nah they would have never started that. The reason they operate this flight is to keep the slots for when they want to use them, and to aid people wanting to connect down to LHR for QF flights no matter how few they are. Obviously they have worked out that more people want to conenct from MAN.
By: LBARULES - 14th November 2004 at 19:21
Nah they would have never started that. The reason they operate this flight is to keep the slots for when they want to use them, and to aid people wanting to connect down to LHR for QF flights no matter how few they are. Obviously they have worked out that more people want to conenct from MAN.
By: SHAMROCK321 - 14th November 2004 at 19:16
Wasnt it a bit stupid of Qantas operating feeder services from one hub a alliance partner to another ie LHR-MAN.
Would they not have been better opening LHR-BFS a route which BA pulled off but a Bae146 might be more suitable.of course it would have to be a codeshare with BA and it might have worked.But how many QF passengers would connect onto BFS.
By: SHAMROCK321 - 14th November 2004 at 19:16
Wasnt it a bit stupid of Qantas operating feeder services from one hub a alliance partner to another ie LHR-MAN.
Would they not have been better opening LHR-BFS a route which BA pulled off but a Bae146 might be more suitable.of course it would have to be a codeshare with BA and it might have worked.But how many QF passengers would connect onto BFS.
By: bmi-star - 14th November 2004 at 18:32
One world 2 letters……BA!
By: bmi-star - 14th November 2004 at 18:32
One world 2 letters……BA!
By: David Kerr - 14th November 2004 at 18:10
An alternative answer…British Airways undue influence as a shareholder; when QF stopped the LHR extension, BA operated QF feeder services using 737s but that lasted 6 months before they were withdrawn as they were competing with the BA shuttle service.
Unfortuntely, myopia has set in and QF aren’t looking beyond LHR for the next 3 to 5 years thereby letting the likes of Emirates, Singapore Airlines and Malaysian to tap into the UK-Australia market which exists from the regions.
The new feeder service has been a spectacular success – sometimes they’ve attracted as many as zero passengers, and tomorrow’s services should be a Titan 146 which positioned in on a Flightline callsign.
David
By: David Kerr - 14th November 2004 at 18:10
An alternative answer…British Airways undue influence as a shareholder; when QF stopped the LHR extension, BA operated QF feeder services using 737s but that lasted 6 months before they were withdrawn as they were competing with the BA shuttle service.
Unfortuntely, myopia has set in and QF aren’t looking beyond LHR for the next 3 to 5 years thereby letting the likes of Emirates, Singapore Airlines and Malaysian to tap into the UK-Australia market which exists from the regions.
The new feeder service has been a spectacular success – sometimes they’ve attracted as many as zero passengers, and tomorrow’s services should be a Titan 146 which positioned in on a Flightline callsign.
David
By: BigJet - 14th November 2004 at 16:37
thnaks alot!
By: BigJet - 14th November 2004 at 16:37
thnaks alot!
By: SHAMROCK321 - 14th November 2004 at 14:56
This quote is taken form a book called Airlines of the world by Christopher Chant
”After reviewing its worldwide schedules in 1995,Qantas ended its London (Heathrow) to Manchester extension launched in August 1994 and expanded the Asian route network with a resumption of flights to China”
So I quess the aircraft were better utilised by not flying onto Manchester.
However as far as I know recently Qantas started flying LHR-MAN using Bae146s in order to keep their additional slots at LHR.The slots were presented to Qantas on a use them or lose them basis.
While im typing this Ive been looking at the Qantas website and the information Ive given is slightly out of date.Those slots are now being used to operate SYD-HKG-LHR 3 times a week and Perth-SIN-LHR 3 times a week.
I hope that helps.
By: SHAMROCK321 - 14th November 2004 at 14:56
This quote is taken form a book called Airlines of the world by Christopher Chant
”After reviewing its worldwide schedules in 1995,Qantas ended its London (Heathrow) to Manchester extension launched in August 1994 and expanded the Asian route network with a resumption of flights to China”
So I quess the aircraft were better utilised by not flying onto Manchester.
However as far as I know recently Qantas started flying LHR-MAN using Bae146s in order to keep their additional slots at LHR.The slots were presented to Qantas on a use them or lose them basis.
While im typing this Ive been looking at the Qantas website and the information Ive given is slightly out of date.Those slots are now being used to operate SYD-HKG-LHR 3 times a week and Perth-SIN-LHR 3 times a week.
I hope that helps.
By: Humberside - 14th November 2004 at 14:51
There’re back again – 2xdaily Flighline Bae 146 from LHR – to keep their slots used
By: Humberside - 14th November 2004 at 14:51
There’re back again – 2xdaily Flighline Bae 146 from LHR – to keep their slots used