dark light

Query about London City Airport

hey all

LCY is, as far as I know, unique in the way it ‘runs’ and operates [its apron]. Aircraft park tail in, nose out along the linear terminal building.

So, for anyone in the know

– How do the aircraft get into the position that they park in on their stands? Do they taxi in and then turn around so they get into the correct position on their own steam?

– How do they then begin their taxi for departure? When the aircraft is ready, are they pushed back (or rather ‘pulled forward’) by tugs onto the taxiway where they then start their engines or do aircraft fire up the engines on stand and then taxi out on their own power?

and,
– Which end of the aircraft do pax usually board/disembark?

I should imagine that LCY is able to turnaround an aircraft pretty swiftly and efficiently – is it any faster that any other airport operating the same type i.e. Dash 8, BAe 146s etc etc?

any help, and if anyone can recall their experiences of LCY, would be absolutely fantastic

thanks 🙂

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

135

Send private message

By: caz66 - 4th August 2007 at 22:35

[QUOTE=N.P.Vibert;1146002
Withh viewing from the north side being good and able to have a picnic unless this has changed in the last few month City is an interesting place to see how they have to operate.[/QUOTE]

Still very good their , nouthing has changed although there are people now moving into the offices.

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

197

Send private message

By: N.P.Vibert - 4th August 2007 at 09:19

Park and a visit

Parking on the front stands is an art
They use two marshallers one to bring it towards the building then as said a hard wright turn to the other marshaller if they get it wrong and the aircraft is not in the box the aircraft hase to taxi around and do it again.
The airport has certainly grown with the best part of 250 schedules movements a day Monday to Friday with the back tracking it is good to see it operate you might even see the odd go-around as things have not moved on quickly enough.
The RJ100/B146 when it backtracks for take of they move quick and even use the spoilers to slow them down for the turn around for take off.
Withh viewing from the north side being good and able to have a picnic unless this has changed in the last few month City is an interesting place to see how they have to operate.

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

4,836

Send private message

By: Manston Airport - 3rd August 2007 at 22:20

There is a roadway between the terminal and stands, so Adam is sort of right to question that. Blast isn’t a major issue because the aircraft aren’t running up to those sorts of power levels on stand. There are a couple of stands which can park nose in, and I think there are tugs for some GA aircraft at the Jet Centre.

Been some time since I last flew there. Have you all seen these videos I post shows the Rush hour at LCY.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hY5TueMRq0k and part 2 http://youtube.com/watch?v=86neRH7zFGI

James

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

1,719

Send private message

By: Mr Creosote - 3rd August 2007 at 21:40

I love flying from LCY with its 20 minute check-ins, lack of crowds, 6 deg approach, and sights of Tower Bridge, Dome (or whatever it’s called now) etc. Still wish I knew what that old building is, though-

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=63266

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

1,226

Send private message

By: rdc1000 - 3rd August 2007 at 19:30

There is no road as the termianl in the way

There is a roadway between the terminal and stands, so Adam is sort of right to question that. Blast isn’t a major issue because the aircraft aren’t running up to those sorts of power levels on stand. There are a couple of stands which can park nose in, and I think there are tugs for some GA aircraft at the Jet Centre.

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

135

Send private message

By: caz66 - 2nd August 2007 at 23:12

hey all

– How do the aircraft get into the position that they park in on their stands? Do they taxi in and then turn around so they get into the correct position on their own steam?

– How do they then begin their taxi for departure? When the aircraft is ready, are they pushed back (or rather ‘pulled forward’) by tugs onto the taxiway where they then start their engines or do aircraft fire up the engines on stand and then taxi out on their own power?

and,
– Which end of the aircraft do pax usually board/disembark?

I should imagine that LCY is able to turnaround an aircraft pretty swiftly and efficiently – is it any faster that any other airport operating the same type i.e. Dash 8, BAe 146s etc etc?

any help, and if anyone can recall their experiences of LCY, would be absolutely fantastic

thanks 🙂

They taxi from the runway to which ever gate they are useing which they go into nose first and turn them round.

Tugs are very rarely used and aircraft make it and taxi to the runway on there own power.

Passengers normally use the doors at the front of the aircraft for bording/disembark/.

If the aircraft is going straight back out then they normally turn them around in about 30 mins.

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

8,156

Send private message

By: Newforest - 2nd August 2007 at 22:34

Nice photo of the airport showing tail to terminal parking as discussed!:)

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/346286/L/

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

4,836

Send private message

By: Manston Airport - 2nd August 2007 at 22:20

No, its not unique in the way aircraft are parked, there are plenty of similar examples around.

Basically, the aircraft power in under their own steam, break hard on the inside wheel and swing round onto stand. Passengers board through the front as normal (although some BAe-146/RJ operators use both doors anyway). They then taxi out under their own steam also.

I’ve flown through there quite a few times, as they’re a client of ours. What do you want to know?

Yeah what rdc said is what they do and I dont think LCY have tugs well I dont remember seeing any when I was there 2 years ago.

If aircraft start up on stand, how is jetblast dealt with? the blast goes towards the terminal building and the roadway behind it (assuming there is one).

There is no road as the termianl in the way and I think the jet blast go onto the termianl this will help you adam http://youtube.com/watch?v=hY5TueMRq0k and part 2 http://youtube.com/watch?v=86neRH7zFGI

James

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

1,463

Send private message

By: adamdowley - 2nd August 2007 at 20:27

Thanks rdc.

Ok, some further questions then:

Are pushback tugs used/needed at the airport then?

If aircraft start up on stand, how is jetblast dealt with? the blast goes towards the terminal building and the roadway behind it (assuming there is one).

Becuase the aircraft turn around into position, and need space to do so, are the stands for these aircraft at LCY any wider than stands for similar aircraft at other airports? dimensions?

How easy would it be for other airports to adopt the idea of small aircraft ‘taxiing in, taxing out’ i.e. parking tail in, nose out? implications?

🙂

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

1,226

Send private message

By: rdc1000 - 2nd August 2007 at 20:00

No, its not unique in the way aircraft are parked, there are plenty of similar examples around.

Basically, the aircraft power in under their own steam, break hard on the inside wheel and swing round onto stand. Passengers board through the front as normal (although some BAe-146/RJ operators use both doors anyway). They then taxi out under their own steam also.

I’ve flown through there quite a few times, as they’re a client of ours. What do you want to know?

Sign in to post a reply