November 2, 2002 at 2:41 pm
Any info on this aircraft… pic is from planepictures.net, but I was unaware that air littoral used these?
http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?1036182645:MPL
Thank you. 🙂
By: roberto_yeager - 30th September 2014 at 13:47
Indeed. A Fokker C.I, registration PH-APL. Modified by Syndicaat Dekker Octrooien from The Hague between 1937 and 1940. Owner Adriaan Dekker was a windmill designer. Aircraft was impounded by German forces at Ypenburg May 18th, 1940 following the invasion of The Netherlands and transported to Berlin. Is rumoured to have been flown there but crashed on first flight.
Thank you so much!!! With that info I could remember were I see it!!
http://www.elgrancapitan.org/foro/viewtopic.php?p=595646#p594569
http://www.elgrancapitan.org/foro/viewtopic.php?p=595646#p590593
1Saludo
By: paul178 - 29th September 2014 at 20:35
So a resounding success then!:D
By: ericmunk - 29th September 2014 at 11:54
It is a Fokker project wich was shown at le Bourget pre WW2.
Indeed. A Fokker C.I, registration PH-APL. Modified by Syndicaat Dekker Octrooien from The Hague between 1937 and 1940. Owner Adriaan Dekker was a windmill designer. Aircraft was impounded by German forces at Ypenburg May 18th, 1940 following the invasion of The Netherlands and transported to Berlin. Is rumoured to have been flown there but crashed on first flight.
By: Stony - 29th September 2014 at 11:17
It is a Fokker project wich was shown at le Bourget pre WW2.
By: roberto_yeager - 29th September 2014 at 11:10
Hazard a guess at somewhere in Germany, pre 1945- ie the jackboots, or somewhere under their influence…
It seems captured in Holland around 1940
1Saludo
By: jack windsor - 29th September 2014 at 09:29
Hazard a guess at somewhere in Germany, pre 1945- ie the jackboots, or somewhere under their influence…
By: MANAIRPORTMAD - 1st April 2005 at 19:09
Aww thats brill! It’s just for flying in FS2002 and maybe a new virtual airline? You can upload it to Avsim if you want. Thanks again!
By: Future Pilot - 1st April 2005 at 15:08
wow! well done DK999k! 😀
By: Airline owner - 1st April 2005 at 15:05
oh. very good.
By: concordesst - 1st April 2005 at 13:08
Very good!
By: DK999k - 1st April 2005 at 12:38
Complete!






It’s not quite finished, need to convert the textures to one friendly with FS2002, gotta put the logo on the right cowling, gotta change the colour of the gear bays & i need to make sure that i painted on the FS2K2 model.
Matt, d’ya want me to upload to avsim or send it to u via MSN.
What’s this livery for btw?
By: MANAIRPORTMAD - 31st March 2005 at 23:48
G-AFLC being not a Boeing 757, but a civilian operated Bristol Blenheim I 😀
Really?! 😮 😮
By: MANAIRPORTMAD - 31st March 2005 at 22:35
Aww, cheers mate! Yes please! If you ever need an easy favour doing, dont hesitate to ask me 😉 :p
By: DK999k - 31st March 2005 at 22:05
Repaints… Who Says I Have Repaints…
Sure, i can do that for ya! D’ya want it on Project OpenSky’s 757?
By: wysiwyg - 12th April 2004 at 22:52
Originally posted by skylinerworld
…The reason I was asking as a pretty recent trip to MAN I made it was an extremely windy day and it caused a Britannia B757 and 2 British airways Embraer 145s to go around again,the Britannia seemed so close to the runway,we even lost sight of it when it was going down,the next time we looked, it was going up turning right over us![pretty loud!!!!}
Although the 757 is capable of Cat 3b approaches with no decision height in vis down to 75 meters we sometimes make cat 3b approaches witha decision height anywhere between 14 and 49 feet due to airfield limitations. In a go around from these sort of decision heights the aircraft is most likely to bounce off the runway during the manoeuvre.
By: Deano - 12th April 2004 at 10:28
oopsy
Not good Moggy 😡
By: Moggy C - 12th April 2004 at 10:10
Originally posted by Deano777
So as you can see by doing it like this there is no real way of a tail strike on the runway
I wish this were always true.
A botched touch and go during my conversion to type on the Yak 52 cost me over a thousand quid in repairing the rudder 🙁
Might have been better if the guy who had supervised the preparation and respray of the aircraft had not had the tail-bumper reduced in size so it looked better 😡
Moggy
By: Arabella-Cox - 12th April 2004 at 02:46
Thanks,you’ve answerd pretty much everything!
The reason I was asking as a pretty recent trip to MAN I made it was an extremely windy day and it caused a Britannia B757 and 2
British airways Embraer 145s to go around again,the Britannia seemed so close to the runway,we even lost sight of it when it was going down,the next time we looked, it was going up turning right over us![pretty loud!!!!}
thanks for your help. 🙂
skylinerworld.
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By: Deano - 12th April 2004 at 02:27
Hi Skyliner
Basically, a decision to go-around can be made at any time during an approach to land, it could be an ATC instruction or one the PIC has made himself, if theres anything about the approach you dont like then a go-around is initiated and the earlier this is done the better.
To answer your question I will give you an example of a late go-around, I was on approach into Leciestershire Airfield in a Warrior, it was rather gusty, winds ranging from 14-18kts but only 10-20 deg off runway heading but there was small evidence of windshear so I kept my speed up slightly and only 2 stages of flap, the approach was good, the plane was bumping around a hell of a lot but the warrior has good directional stability so you let the plane ride the bumps, I crossed the threshold then seem to lose alot of airspeed in an instance (windshear), the plane sunk pretty quickly and I didnt have sufficient time to add power and the plane hit the runway quite hard and bounced, i added a small bit of power and tried to settle her on the runway again but she bounced again so instead of trying to settle her on the runway I “went around” and I was only about 10ft off the runway surface, basically in the go around its full power, level the nose, wait for airspeed to build then we raise the drag flap away (In my case I had no drag flap deployed), then a gentle climb and wait for positive rate then the next stage away and so on until the aircraft is “clean”.
So as you can see by doing it like this there is no real way of a tail strike on the runway, and as the planes are quite short in length you would have to raise the nose at a pretty steep angle to strike the tail and in which case in the landing configuraton this would probably send you into a stall.
Hope this has covered a couple of your questions ok, if not fire away with some more 🙂
Dean.
By: Flood - 8th February 2004 at 21:07
Does anybody feel that they will never get the time they wasted on this problem back again?:confused:
Flood.