Does anybody know how long biometrics data are stored? For “ever”? That would soon flood the database I guess.
Or do they only compare the data on the biometric-enabled passport with the living-breathing person presenting it and check against a watchlist?
By: Pembo330 - 5th May 2005 at 10:32
What can be more dodgey looking that a guy in jeans and trainers carrying a briefcase who flies 4K plus miles just to fly back 48 hours later… lol
Oh dear, have I been rumbled? 😉 They weren’t just ordinary trainers I’ll have you know; they were real Chav..
By: Pembo330 - 5th May 2005 at 10:32
What can be more dodgey looking that a guy in jeans and trainers carrying a briefcase who flies 4K plus miles just to fly back 48 hours later… lol
Oh dear, have I been rumbled? 😉 They weren’t just ordinary trainers I’ll have you know; they were real Chav..
By: Distiller - 5th May 2005 at 09:44
Update here (to my current best knowledge, but things are in a flux):
# the new U.S. passports will only have a digitized version of the photo stored, no fingerprints, and will propably use no RFID
# most of the new EU passports will have a digitized version of the photo, plus digitized fingerprints stored, plus will use RFID
# the UK will use the same system as the EU, but possibly also an iris scan
It looks like in the U.S. the system will remain a simple offline-system where the digitized photo on the passport is compared to the face of the holder, whereas in the Schengen area of the EU it will become an online-system utilizing the SIS (Schengen Information System).
By: Distiller - 5th May 2005 at 09:44
Update here (to my current best knowledge, but things are in a flux):
# the new U.S. passports will only have a digitized version of the photo stored, no fingerprints, and will propably use no RFID
# most of the new EU passports will have a digitized version of the photo, plus digitized fingerprints stored, plus will use RFID
# the UK will use the same system as the EU, but possibly also an iris scan
It looks like in the U.S. the system will remain a simple offline-system where the digitized photo on the passport is compared to the face of the holder, whereas in the Schengen area of the EU it will become an online-system utilizing the SIS (Schengen Information System).
By: Bmused55 - 24th March 2005 at 19:13
As far as I am aware, the fingerprinting and photograph procedure commenced in October 2004
there we go then.
I slipped through 😉
By: Bmused55 - 24th March 2005 at 19:13
As far as I am aware, the fingerprinting and photograph procedure commenced in October 2004
there we go then.
I slipped through 😉
By: The Old Man - 24th March 2005 at 19:06
I never had any photo or fingerprints taken when I transited through Newark on my way to the Bahamas in September!
As far as I am aware, the fingerprinting and photograph procedure commenced in October 2004
By: The Old Man - 24th March 2005 at 19:06
I never had any photo or fingerprints taken when I transited through Newark on my way to the Bahamas in September!
As far as I am aware, the fingerprinting and photograph procedure commenced in October 2004
By: Whiskey Delta - 23rd March 2005 at 20:28
I don’t know how the system works. My fingerprints are on perminant file with the TSA (lucky me) as well as them have 2 pictures on record. Being on a different side of the line I’m unaware of what the average passenger goes through.
By: Whiskey Delta - 23rd March 2005 at 20:28
I don’t know how the system works. My fingerprints are on perminant file with the TSA (lucky me) as well as them have 2 pictures on record. Being on a different side of the line I’m unaware of what the average passenger goes through.
By: Grey Area - 23rd March 2005 at 18:23
He does, he does….. 😀
By: Grey Area - 23rd March 2005 at 18:23
He does, he does….. 😀
By: Bmused55 - 23rd March 2005 at 17:11
I landed at Newark in November Sandy and I and Mrs 330 were definitely finger-printed. We probably look slightly more dodgy than you however. 😉
What can be more dodgey looking that a guy in jeans and trainers carrying a briefcase who flies 4K plus miles just to fly back 48 hours later… lol
By: Bmused55 - 23rd March 2005 at 17:11
I landed at Newark in November Sandy and I and Mrs 330 were definitely finger-printed. We probably look slightly more dodgy than you however. 😉
What can be more dodgey looking that a guy in jeans and trainers carrying a briefcase who flies 4K plus miles just to fly back 48 hours later… lol
By: Pembo330 - 23rd March 2005 at 16:28
I landed at Newark in November Sandy and I and Mrs 330 were definitely finger-printed. We probably look slightly more dodgy than you however. 😉
By: Pembo330 - 23rd March 2005 at 16:28
I landed at Newark in November Sandy and I and Mrs 330 were definitely finger-printed. We probably look slightly more dodgy than you however. 😉
By: Bmused55 - 23rd March 2005 at 15:43
I never had any photo or fingerprints taken when I transited through Newark on my way to the Bahamas in September!
By: Bmused55 - 23rd March 2005 at 15:43
I never had any photo or fingerprints taken when I transited through Newark on my way to the Bahamas in September!
By: The Old Man - 23rd March 2005 at 15:08
My understanding is that the biometric details are scrubbed upon departure but we’re talking USA here so who really knows.
My entry point is normally Newark where we go through the usual process of the photograph and index fingure prints (and hats off to Immigration at Continental’s terminal they are normally quick and efficient) and, until a few months ago, upon leaving, the handing over of the bottom part of the immigration form sufficed. However, in conjunction with other airports, they are experimenting with machines in the terminal buildings in which you scan your own passport, pose for the usual photo and scan your index fingures with the machine prompts. These details are obviously compared to those on entry and, on the basis that they match, a receipt slip is processed to confirm
that your exit from the country is registered. It is quick and simple but is it foolproof? Nah, shouldn’t think so!
Almost forgot, airport personnel stand by the machines in case of any problems
By: The Old Man - 23rd March 2005 at 15:08
My understanding is that the biometric details are scrubbed upon departure but we’re talking USA here so who really knows.
My entry point is normally Newark where we go through the usual process of the photograph and index fingure prints (and hats off to Immigration at Continental’s terminal they are normally quick and efficient) and, until a few months ago, upon leaving, the handing over of the bottom part of the immigration form sufficed. However, in conjunction with other airports, they are experimenting with machines in the terminal buildings in which you scan your own passport, pose for the usual photo and scan your index fingures with the machine prompts. These details are obviously compared to those on entry and, on the basis that they match, a receipt slip is processed to confirm
that your exit from the country is registered. It is quick and simple but is it foolproof? Nah, shouldn’t think so!
Almost forgot, airport personnel stand by the machines in case of any problems
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