September 26, 2006 at 10:54 am
http://www.timesnow.tv/articleshow/2027187.cms
Hundreds of foreign students took to the centre of St Petersburg to demand a full investigation into the murder of an Indian medical student that seemed to be racially motivated.Brutally murdered
27-year-old final-year student, named Nitesh Kumar Singh, was stabbed outside a student hostel late on Sunday night. Singh was admitted to a hospital, but succumbed to the injuries later.
India’s Consul-General Jordana Pavel said Singh died of seven wounds on the spine. She would not speculate on the reasons for the attack.
‘We want justice’
Holding up pictures of the Singh, the students shouted slogans like ‘we want for justice’ as they stood outside the prosecutors’ office. Deputy city prosecutor Andrei Lavrynko has vowed to investigate the case and to look at various versions of what happened.
Sunday’s attack took place after members of a nationalist organisation called ‘the movement against illegal immigration’ staged a rally in the centre of St Petersburg.
History of racial attacks
Russia has been hit by a wave of race-related attacks by far-right militants on dark-skinned people and foreign students say such incidents are particularly on the rise in Russia’s second city.
In February 2004, a nine-year-old girl from Tajikistan died from multiple stab wounds after a gang attacked her and members of her family on a St Petersburg street.
A year ago, a Congolese student was beaten badly and later died from his injuries. Last month, a bomb exploded at a multi-ethnic market in Moscow killing 10 people in an attack that prosecutors said appeared to be racially-motivated.
President Vladimir Putin, himself from St Petersburg, has ordered police to crack down on the problem.
(Reuters)
These things are mostly against african students and now targetting indians too…
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4737468.stm < read this this is horribly scary…how africans are treated.
What do you guys think about this? still you know these type of things seriously deteroites national trusts, including peoples.I personally think ally’s are not formed entirely based on millitary cooperation but based on peoples interest too.
I never knew bout all this until today , i was shocked to see racism is still there in russia is this true that racism thrives a lot in russia also law enforcements somehow favours them?
By: roscoria - 30th September 2006 at 06:55
No the English are not a race. No NATIONALITY is a RACE Roscoria, being Danish is NOT a race just like being Japanese is NOT a race.
There are ethnic diversities in all races, there are different ethnic groups in Pakistan as there are in China and Brazil and there are “conflicts” between these groups so it is not purely a colour thing. Without sounding like I know what the hell I’m talking about, there are “differences of opinion” within some races based on how dark peoples skin complexions are despite being classed as the same race and being the same nationality.
Well said , coudn’t have put it better myself. 🙂
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By: worthyone - 29th September 2006 at 21:24
No the English are not a race. No NATIONALITY is a RACE Roscoria, being Danish is NOT a race just like being Japanese is NOT a race.
There are ethnic diversities in all races, there are different ethnic groups in Pakistan as there are in China and Brazil and there are “conflicts” between these groups so it is not purely a colour thing. Without sounding like I know what the hell I’m talking about, there are “differences of opinion” within some races based on how dark peoples skin complexions are despite being classed as the same race and being the same nationality.
By: roscoria - 29th September 2006 at 20:58
Multiculturism ?
The word Racism is an oxymoron. Races exist whether or not you subscribe to the concept. Im very offended by anyone who says they are not racist. This world is divided by national borders mostly because of race and there are (always) internal divisions within borders of multicultural nations. I know so many people who think they are not racist because have dark skinned friends or have dark skinned people at their work, and they think because they treat them equally to their white skinned friends that they are not part of racism. The fact is they dont have to be racist because society does the dividing for them. Its not an accident that you can drive through a city like Los Angelos and go through neighborhoods that are all black and neighborhoods that are (mostly) all white. Do you know why the plight of black people in the US is so bad? Because they are trying to fight something that you cant stop, which is racism. Instead of standing up for their rights as far as getting a fair share of economic opportunity, black people become resentful and seperate themselves into their own culture. In the end they become more racist than the racism that caused their work problems in the first place. So the cause of racism goes both ways. There are so many ethnic groups from poor nations that want to continually live on the fringe, a sort of gipsy mentality that they can squeeze by with what little that they can come by instead of really taking part in the nation they belong to. Whether they are subsistance farmers from the country they come from or washing windshields at stoplights in citys they go to. Racism is not a one sided problem, it has to dealt with by both the immigrants and the host countrys.
Ok but there may be another reason why Blacks and Whites live seperately. It may be because they feel more comfortable in their own ethnic group for now anyway. The English are not a race as such, because they are made up from different races that invaded Britain. It will take some time before all the different ethnic groups start to inter marry, but it will happen. Because with each new generation, barriers seperating racial groups willl begin to crumble.
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By: LonePig - 28th September 2006 at 23:41
The word Racism is an oxymoron. Races exist whether or not you subscribe to the concept. Im very offended by anyone who says they are not racist. This world is divided by national borders mostly because of race and there are (always) internal divisions within borders of multicultural nations. I know so many people who think they are not racist because have dark skinned friends or have dark skinned people at their work, and they think because they treat them equally to their white skinned friends that they are not part of racism. The fact is they dont have to be racist because society does the dividing for them. Its not an accident that you can drive through a city like Los Angelos and go through neighborhoods that are all black and neighborhoods that are (mostly) all white. Do you know why the plight of black people in the US is so bad? Because they are trying to fight something that you cant stop, which is racism. Instead of standing up for their rights as far as getting a fair share of economic opportunity, black people become resentful and seperate themselves into their own culture. In the end they become more racist than the racism that caused their work problems in the first place. So the cause of racism goes both ways. There are so many ethnic groups from poor nations that want to continually live on the fringe, a sort of gipsy mentality that they can squeeze by with what little that they can come by instead of really taking part in the nation they belong to. Whether they are subsistance farmers from the country they come from or washing windshields at stoplights in citys they go to. Racism is not a one sided problem, it has to dealt with by both the immigrants and the host countrys.
By: Hurrifan - 28th September 2006 at 23:07
Considering we are all supposed to be decendents of a Lady in Africa, that makes us cousins. Therefore we are cousins fighting cousins. The differences between us are purely superficial, skin colour, language, facial features etc etc. But that’s enough to create a sense of division between us. I think that many years from now the racial skin tone in general will be Tan and Black, White skin will be very uncommon. Then we will be back where we started from. Visual impressions of one another will always be important, and people of the same racial group will always feel more comfortable together, than with a different group. It’s difficult to change centurys of thinking in a few generations. 🙂
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would be nice if this could happen…..but in the real world…
Those who live and prosper by the divisions and discrimination so prevalent in society will never ever let it happen…
They will always find something, if not race then religion, if not religion then class…and it goes on and on…and has done for time immemorial
By: roscoria - 28th September 2006 at 20:41
Racial overtones.
U know Comet I have to say fair play for bringing up the the links that you did, it really gets me when the BBC and organsiation such as the police shy away from linking racism to the murders of white people but every time a non-white person is murdered or attacked they scream racism at the top of their voices so well done mate!!!
And to add to what Comet said, racism exists in ALL countries, ALL cultures and ALL religions!!! There is no such thing as a racist free culture, nationality, religion, creed whatever…it’s just human nature.
I have to wonder how much attention the media would have given the story Joey brought up if it was a Russian who was murdered in India???…don’t take that the wrong way Joey I’m not trying to suggest anything about racism in India (except as I said it does exist as it does EVERYWHERE) but you have to understand it gets frustrating that racism against white people is rarely covered for one reason or another, at least it isn’t here in the UK.
Considering we are all supposed to be decendents of a Lady in Africa, that makes us cousins. Therefore we are cousins fighting cousins. The differences between us are purely superficial, skin colour, language, facial features etc etc. But that’s enough to create a sense of division between us. I think that many years from now the racial skin tone in general will be Tan and Black, White skin will be very uncommon. Then we will be back where we started from. Visual impressions of one another will always be important, and people of the same racial group will always feel more comfortable together, than with a different group. It’s difficult to change centurys of thinking in a few generations. 🙂
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By: worthyone - 27th September 2006 at 11:12
U know Comet I have to say fair play for bringing up the the links that you did, it really gets me when the BBC and organsiation such as the police shy away from linking racism to the murders of white people but every time a non-white person is murdered or attacked they scream racism at the top of their voices so well done mate!!!
And to add to what Comet said, racism exists in ALL countries, ALL cultures and ALL religions!!! There is no such thing as a racist free culture, nationality, religion, creed whatever…it’s just human nature.
I have to wonder how much attention the media would have given the story Joey brought up if it was a Russian who was murdered in India???…don’t take that the wrong way Joey I’m not trying to suggest anything about racism in India (except as I said it does exist as it does EVERYWHERE) but you have to understand it gets frustrating that racism against white people is rarely covered for one reason or another, at least it isn’t here in the UK.
By: KabirT - 27th September 2006 at 06:35
Question Joey; how do you tell if a student is wearing a Swastika because of Hindu beliefs or Nazi sympathies? and given that many would argue that Hinduism is derived from the orignal Aryan religion, and that Nazism seeks to re-establish an ‘Aryan super race,’ are the two not interwined?
Steve.
traditionally Hindu swastic sign differs in design from the nazi one. Nazi one is an interpretation.
A traditional hindu one…
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the nazi interpretation…

By: joey - 26th September 2006 at 17:34
nevertheless , swastika was established here before hitler claimed bout being aryans and i dont think thers any diect connection between here and hitlers regime.
he might said they are aryans which i dunno how true is it but hindus are aryans for sure.and i can assure we we dont have a mindset to capture the world, but yes becoming a superpower we do have the dream.
and there shud be no sympathy towards nazism “the way it was practiced” not how was it.doctrine can be diff but killing ppls isnt the right way u know, it was only for that peoples hate it.
By: joey - 26th September 2006 at 17:13
megalith its as simple as this.
i’m 19 and you know these hormones a guy has when hes a teen, he wants to show off. so wearing a swastika in a fest and playing death metal on the stage basically pumps your adrenalin and makes you more motivated that you somehow belong to a particular race that were admired by once world ruling dreamer -hitler.
so if you see a 19 year wearing that it means hes trying to make himself get loked in the crowd nothing else :P.
by no means i like what hitler did if you saw “the longest day” u’ll see fuhrer saying “you know what general when we see our own generals being killed i think we’ve already lost the war!!”
but yes hinduism is the form of aryan thats 100% sure.indias ethnic hstory has aryans and non-aryans. the vedism vedic culture is derived from aryans — thats why hinduism is called the most scientific religion.
one more thing hinduism is not even a religion in its own sense , its a way of living your life coping with the best of nature and believing only on karma , your work is your life.
lemme give you a example, u know hindus dont take beef but many of my frnds does and i do sometims too know why it was banned in those days? because of india is a tropical country and beef is a red meat having high protein diets, if you consume beef ihere where temp are > 40″ centigrade u’ll likely to have cronic liver and heart problems.in extreme north everybody takes it cuz its cold.now in ancient days to make it a law u have to put it in religion else ppl wont obey you, that is why they used religion a way to promote the odds and evils in the society..
but india eas attacked by many ppls, and in the previous 200 years with a mixture of beliefs u must have heard bout many ODD beliefs etc etc those are by no means hinduism or vedic culture, those are a mixup things of $h1thead kings that were here and used to make their own rules.
i’ve read some articles of ved and it surprises me how scientific it is but sadly thousands of years we were colonized by diff cultures and it has a bad effect among the poors they neither knows what is vedism and indulges himself in antisocial superstious beliefs that was never a part of hinduism, but merely a propaganda which follows from generations to generations.
and yes swastika sign is still used in the devotion to some gods and stuffs.. but normally you dont go wearing swastika outside as it is used where some idol is worshipped.its used as a mark.
By: megalith - 26th September 2006 at 12:52
Question Joey; how do you tell if a student is wearing a Swastika because of Hindu beliefs or Nazi sympathies? and given that many would argue that Hinduism is derived from the orignal Aryan religion, and that Nazism seeks to re-establish an ‘Aryan super race,’ are the two not interwined?
Steve.
By: Barnowl - 26th September 2006 at 11:58
Very, very well said Comet.
By: joey - 26th September 2006 at 11:58
yeah comet thats true. what i meant is whatever u guys think india and in normal literate ones have a soft corner for russians, when it comes to sanskrit words that matches with russian language and stuffs …. things like these jeopardise things which a layman dont think the way you put.
they simply thinks oh racism in russia like that its just media u know.. india is also racist country and i myself say that one of the biggest racist country.
but in todays worls govt shud take drastic measures to stop these stuffs , its shameful.
btw recently there have been a rise in these nazi activities somehow…
talk bout mumbai restaurant attracting hundreds by naming itself to a nazi leader.
talk bout neo nazis in germany
talk bout racism in russia motivated by nationalistic things mostly
there is still a miniorty that thinks aryans are the supreme race, still people shudnt live with stuff like this in this 21st century.
its odd to see how teenagers are motivated by wearing swastika t-shirts and performing in college fests , even i myself feel good in them, i wonder why!!!
though swastika is legal here cuz its used in hindu religion.
By: Comet - 26th September 2006 at 11:32
Racism exists in all countries where there are “multicultural” areas. And it is not just carried out against blacks and Asians either. In Britain the media will often purposely ignore attacks on whites which are carried out by non whites. Contrast this with attacks on non whites by whites.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4022261.stm Kriss Donald was murdered by two Asians in Glasgow but the BBC declined to comment on the racist nature of the attack.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3405797.stm Ashley Hedger – yet again the BBC refuse to acknowledge racism against whites.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4733097.stm
Another racist attack on a white person.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/3254492.stm Gavin Hopley’s racially-motivated murder received very little coverage.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4460778.stm The racist murder of Christopher Yates.
How many people reading this are familiar with those names? And how many more are familiar with the names of Steven Lawrence and Anthony Walker, whose equally-brutal murders had unending media coverage?
Please do not imply that all racist attacks are carried out by whites on non-whites because it simply is not true.