Is anyone aware of a web site or other sources such as a book where you can cross reference between the AP number and the equipment the AP is the subject of?
For example if I was interested in knowing more about a particular engine, say the Herclues, where do I find out that information about this engine is contained in the AP1728 series for earlier Mk engines?
That Hercules XVI information would be in the AP1728D series etc. or that later Mk engines are in another AP series again, e.g. Hercules 264 is in the AP4333A or AP102B-04264 series of publications?
The same applies equally as well to aircraft that you may be interested in, where latter Mk’s of aircraft are contained in different numbered AP’s sequences.
By: V Force kid - 9th November 2007 at 15:52
Hello Peter, try making an official request to Hendon to see AP 114P-0200, 0300 and 0801 (ASV 21 in various incarnations) series. The AP’s got renumbered into the modern series, I can’t garuntee that they’ll be there but its the most up to date reference for the equipment, you may have more luck than with AP2890G – The answer was lying in AP113 Book 4, for anybody that’s developing an interest in AP’s… 😉
By: steve_p - 8th November 2007 at 08:36
Hi Paul,
If you use the advanced search over at the RAF Museum site, you will find that Hendon has some Jaguar publications. I’ve no idea if the volumes are still closed – an email to Hendon would, I imagine, clarify.
Best wishes
Steve P
By: ozjag - 8th November 2007 at 08:03
Thanks for the pointers. I did a search of the PRO but not much of interest to me, maybe Jaguars are still a bit modern.
Paul
By: 682al - 7th November 2007 at 10:00
Just a small piece of advice from me, DORIS does not allow flash photography. Or at least, they didn’t when I last visited Hendon in March.
By: Peter Mills - 7th November 2007 at 09:17
Beware !
I recently obtained an AP from Hendon, no problems, reasonable cost and timing was slow but OK. When I asked about another manual it turned out that what they thought they had was only the cover and separators but no content! They had no idea what had happened and that was the only “copy” they had. It was an AP for a radar so I asked Cosford if they had it, they get theirs from Hendon!
This is just a warning to say just because it’s listed it may not be any use.
By the way anyone know where I can get a copy of AP2890G (ASV21)?
By: steve_p - 6th November 2007 at 22:12
Thanks for the responses guys. I’ve found some of the Kew held APs to be incomplete so being able to copy from the volumes held at Hendon is great news.
Best wishes
Steve P
By: V Force kid - 6th November 2007 at 21:25
Similar setup to Kew now regarding digital camera use – as long as its Crown Copyright material…
By: HHA Eng - 6th November 2007 at 12:54
Re Publications
Copying at Hendon is outsourced and can take quite a time to get back. I am not sure about actually photographing pages or even copying yourself on site as I have always ordered via phone or net. They have however always been very good copies and although costly it is a very good service.
Mick
By: HHA Eng - 6th November 2007 at 12:53
Re Publictaions
Copying at Hendon is outsourced and can take quite a time to get back. I am not sure about actually photographing pages or even copying yourself on site as I have always ordered via phone or net. They have however always been very good copies and although costly it is a very good service.
Mick
By: steve_p - 6th November 2007 at 12:37
What is the situation regarding copying APs at Hendon? At Kew I can photograph pages with my digital camera. Is this allowed at Hendon?
Best wishes
Steve P
By: HHA Eng - 6th November 2007 at 12:35
Catalogue of APs
The book you require is the catalogue of APs known as the AP100Z. THis lists all the RAF publications and the equipment, aircraft type etc that the publication refers to. Hendon museum will have a copy but it will cost to get it copied, maybe someone out there might have one.
By: V Force kid - 6th November 2007 at 12:09
In the Air Publication series there is one volume called “guide to engineering publications” which lists all the aircraft, engine and related manuals at about 1944-1945 and also explains how the air publication system works – I can’t remember the AP number for this one and I’m not a work to check I’m afraid. You could also try the AP 113 series, which is a catalogue of forms, publications etc. we’ve got several copies from different periods at Hendon, but it could be a bit of a trawl. Of course there is the mighty AP1086 series, stores vocab, this often has references to AP for specific equipment.
A word of warning on the engine APs – some of the (higher I think?!:confused: ) volumes refer to what’s sometimes known as power eggs or engine change units (ECUs), a complete assembly of engine and ancillary equipment (such as starters, oil systems etc.), designed to speed up engine changes, you’ll get plenty of infomation overal but not tremendous details on the engine itself – I mention it because the titles can be a bit misleading and you could end up ordering a copy of a publication you didn’t really want.
Thanks for the compliment Bruce, we don’t tend to get many round here lately! 😉
By: Bruce - 6th November 2007 at 10:45
Use the following link:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/default.htm
That takes you to the Public Record Office homepage.
Search for what you want in AIR and AVIA sections. You’ll be amazed by what is there!
Bruce
By: ozjag - 6th November 2007 at 09:51
What is / how do I access the ‘PRO database’.
Thanks Paul
By: Bruce - 3rd November 2007 at 20:11
I use the PRO database – they have pretty much all the AP’s ever printed, and a careful search will throw up the ones you want.
If you want to order copies, it is then easier to contact the RAF Museum library – they are cheaper and more efficient, and they will copy manuals that PRO wont consider!
Bruce
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