I believe recently dug up by contractors are a number of perplexing parts none of which point to a single aircraft and almost nothing has been tied to a particular aircraft type, I will start with:
1) RAF Dark Earth Dzus Cowl? panel – approx 3ft by 1 ft almost certain this would have been totally flat – black at one end which I’m almost certain is exhaust soot. Perplexing Dzus receptacles across middle of panel in aerofoil curve? Cowling panel at one end appear to mate with another removable cowl panel. Alot of galling near Dzus points suggesting alot of vibration going on so probably cowl area.
Part no. On various components: 8E1180 inspector round stamp “711”, 3E11?0-3 “770”, 7E1180 “35A”, 4E1180-3 “770”. Whole panel has faint pencil on back “1180” and “E. Brook”
I have carefully considered almost every RAF wartime airframe, I doubt fighter as I’m only aware of this style of Dzus on bomber cowling. The rectangular shape means few if any cowls match – HP Hereford is by far the closest match and between the exhausts as well..however the Dzus across middle of panel plus considerable galling in vicinity has me thinking this could only be where an exhaust heat shroud may have been. There seems to be more Dzus slots than on the Hereford shame as we know they were used in training and as Newton was training wartime..
By: bazv - 1st September 2021 at 15:06
Certainly could be a fuselage side panel – I could not find any high quality pics to be able to come to any firm conclusion.
I did wonder if the Left/Right was a marking for the Rudder Trim Control Wheel but could not find an HQ pic of that area either and I cannot remember if there was a similar item on KF183.
By: Stirling - 1st September 2021 at 13:39
bazv that is a good point on the lettering almost certainly correct, I also note that vintage wings of Canada show their Noorduyn harvard with a similar interior deep green as does their Oxford so very much a Canadian shade. I do however think this is part of the large removable fuse side access panel they could have put octane rating there as i think they did on american fighter IIRC, plus no too far from fillers on wing. The steel tubing in similar green almost certainly same airframe just trying to find match.
By: bazv - 30th August 2021 at 09:32
I do wonder if the ‘876CT’ is actually ’87 OCT’ and the panel may be from just forward of one of the refuel caps ?
87 Octane would have been the most suitable Fuel requirement.
By: bazv - 30th August 2021 at 09:00
The ‘N252’ is a Noordyun Inspection Stamp used by Inspector N252 (a personal stamp).
Left/Right is the N American equivalent of Port/Stbd,I have worked on USA built/designed Aircraft and they always use L/R.
I did sometimes get to work on Harvard KF183 whilst at Boscombe Down 2002 – 2015 – it was definitely my favourite aircraft in our extremely eclectic fleet ☺️.
By: Stirling - 29th August 2021 at 22:04
And here’s the DH hydromatic boss.
By: Stirling - 29th August 2021 at 22:00
Next photo is what I have now identified as the port engine exhaust manifold from an airspeed oxford
Then an ally air duct around part of exhaust manifold
Final pictures are of intriguing steel aerofoil shaped heat exchanger so it would have been out in the air flow – I’m sure I’ve seen this on a big interwar biplane but i cannot find a suitable airframe. this part has 2 steel cadplated clamps with same part no: SR 51617 with circular inspector stamp either “56” or “36”
By: Stirling - 29th August 2021 at 21:51
I think ally tank strap says in red dye “AST-ALCLAD”
By: Stirling - 29th August 2021 at 21:50
Next photos is tubing with same deep green as inside of trainer yellow panel. Tubing seems too flimsy for engine bearer? One bolt has “AERO” lettering on head, also has an ally tank strap with part no.: 36 47027 31, 3? 47027 32 ASS (the ? Is a 6 or 8) , 25 47014 15. Comparing to online photos of harvard restorations I am certain these are the front and rear cross members and straps that hold the oil tank between the engine bearers on a noorduyn built harvard
By: Stirling - 29th August 2021 at 21:42
Next item trainer yellow panel with text possiblly “876CT” thin skinning inside interior has been several colours – duck egg primer, a strange deep green and then black, has a bent tab with transfer ” Left <> Right” underneath inspector stamp “N252” possibly corresponds to Canadian Noorduyn built harvard. Might have been part of a removable panel as one finished edge -maybe the side fuse access panel? Left right seems strange terminology for aircraft rather than port or starboard?
By: TwinOtter23.Mk.19 - 29th August 2021 at 20:06
It’s worth remembering that for a number of years post-World War II 58 MU had a depot / storage facility at RAF Newton, so you may not just have to consider types that served there.
One of Newark Air Museum’s founders (sadly now deceased) dined out on the parts that he ‘salvaged’ from their compound.
By: FarlamAirframes - 29th August 2021 at 17:48
The first piece is an Avro part number! And the E is not surprising engine cowling.
So Likely Lancaster or Anson.
An Anson cowl section I had recently was 1E1241
By: FarlamAirframes - 29th August 2021 at 17:43
The first piece is an Avro part number! And the E is not surprising engine cowling.
By: Stirling - 29th August 2021 at 10:02
items in haul include:
trainer yellow fuselage? Skinning cockpit area?
RAF dark earth cowl panel
DH hydromatic prop boss
Water radiator / cabin heater – see separate post
Cheetah exhaust manifold?
Exhaust cabin heat exchanger aerofoil shape
Exhaust air manifold duct
Section of tubular lighteight engine mount? With tank straps
In general nothing pointing to any one airframe!
More photos on the way
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