RAF Training A/C 1918-Present

Yes Peter those marks of the Wimpy were straight forward conversions, unlike the the T.10 which was a complete rebuild and modification by Boulton Paul.
There are certainly lots more training types built than you first think, I’m hoping someone can put up a good list here of pre-war and WWII era trainers.

DH Don is one!

Will have to add another classic to the list
Mosquito T3
much used by AFSs etc plus most squadrons had one for continuation training.
I had a few adventures in one.

PageNo1. That Wimpy was ISTR a Mk 18, but the Mk 17 was also used for AI Mk10 so would have had a similar nose. I guess they were conversions from earlier marks hence the two different mark numbers

Brewerjerry. Yes that is ZQ coded, the serial letters are unreadable, but the number is 128 if that is any help

What can I say this is gonna keep me going for a while……….!

On the Air Cadet gliders has anyone got details of the relevant model companys that would cover the types mentioned previous. Special interest in this area due to being a “sprog” for eight years and did a stint at 643 VGS on Vigilants in 1993. Trained at ACCGS…..Happy Days!

i did my gliding scholarship at CGS 🙂 over at Syerston

with regards to the models…not too sure theres Viking/vigilant Plastic models…although there are diecast ones about…try contacting 643 and ask if they know or have spares?

Scott

Didn’t Ray Sturrivant ? write a book about them ?

Using Google I can find Norman Ellison’s ‘British Gliders & Sailplanes 1922-1970’, and ‘Slingsby Sailplanes – a comprehensive history of all designs’, by Martin Simons.

I don’t know of any production model glider that would accurately depict earlier types. You might have to resort to scratch-building, if you’re up to it. There’s a thread over here full of pics of Barges and Cadets, to show you what we had to live with in the old days. 😀

There have been a number of ATC aeroplanes in model form. Mostly in Vacuform kits. Phoenix did a Grasshopper, T.31, T21 and Kirby Cadet. I did a Slingsby Venture in short run injection. The Chipmunk is by Airfix.

John

Didn’t Ray Sturrivant ? write a book about them ?

On the Air Cadet gliders has anyone got details of the relevant model companys that would cover the types mentioned previous. Special interest in this area due to being a “sprog” for eight years and did a stint at 643 VGS on Vigilants in 1993. Trained at ACCGS…..Happy Days!

I don’t know of any production model glider that would accurately depict earlier types. You might have to resort to scratch-building, if you’re up to it. There’s a thread over here full of pics of Barges and Cadets, to show you what we had to live with in the old days. 😀

Seem to have gone a bit off track?

Roger Smith

Come on Roger it’s a web forum what do you expect. 😉

IMHO Newark still offers one of (if not) the broadest displays of RAF training types in a UK museum. In alphabetical order, with items in brackets perhaps not wholly falling into the original criteria:

Avro Anson C.19
de Havilland Canada Chipmunk T.10
de Havilland Tiger Moth
de Havilland Vampire T.11
[English Electric Canberra T.19]
[English Electric Lightning T.5]
[Gloster Meteor NF(T).14]
Gloster Meteor T.7
[Handley Page Hastings T.5]
Handley Page Jetstream
HS Gnat T.1
Hunting Jet Provost T.3 (cockpit)
Hunting Jet Provost T.3A
North American Harvard (cockpit)
Percival Prentice
Percival Provost
Scottish Aviation Bulldog T.1
Slingsby Cadet TX.1 glider
Vickers Varsity

What can I say this is gonna keep me going for a while……….!

Appreciation to all for the time and effort…collection should be complete in roughly 20 years……….!:)

On the Air Cadet gliders has anyone got details of the relevant model companys that would cover the types mentioned previous. Special interest in this area due to being a “sprog” for eight years and did a stint at 643 VGS on Vigilants in 1993. Trained at ACCGS…..Happy Days!

Seem to have gone a bit off track?

Just thought it would be nice to give complete listings in one place for other peoples sake.

Hi
That wellington, has it got a ‘ZQ’ code,
If so any chance of the serial number ?
cheers
Jerry

Seem to have gone a bit off track?

…Im just interested in pure training types e.g. 504, Tiger Moth, Chipmunk, Jetstream etc. Pilot training ab initio, basic, advanced, multi engine etc….

Roger Smith

It should not be forgotten (but is usually is) that all the Air Cadet gliders are RAF aircraft (more so than the Slingsby Firefly and Grob Tutor). There are models out there for most of them including the Venture (thank you aeroclub John) and the Vigilant, you could even model the Vanguard using Revell’s gorgeous ASK21.

Just for completeness, here are post-war Fleet air Arm trainers

Fairey Firefly T.1, T.2, T.3, & T.7
Hawker Sea Fury T.20
DHC Chipmunk T.10
Gloster Meteor T.7
Percival Sea Prince T.1
Boulton Paul Sea Balliol T.21
DH Sea Vampire T.22
Fairey Gannet T.2 & T.5
Hawker Hunter T.8 & T.8M
EE Canberra T.22
BAe Jetstream T.2 & T.3
BAe Harrier T.4N & T.8
Grob Tutor

Unusual picture Peter thanks for that.
Did one of the other variants have a smaller ‘pimple’ type radome similar to Sea Prince style?

I wouldn’t call the radome on the Wimpy a pimple. Was led to believe that is was borrowed from a Mossie.
See pic lifted from a book here

Looks more like a boil to me LOL

How on earth could I have left out the Annies!
Overlooked the wimpy XVII(T), XVIII(T) nightfighter trainer with the pimple radome, and the T.19 with both turrets removed:o
Will back add them to my list for completeness, thanks Peter.

…Slingsby Firefly, Grob Tutor…

and what about types used abroad in the various wartime training plans such as various Yales, Stearmans and Ryans.. Not used by the RAF, but employed for RAF training..

And to pagen01 list must be added
Ansons T20, T21, and T22 for bombing, navigation, and signaller training.
Wellingtons T17 and T18 for NF radar training
and there are doubtless many more in different roles and at different times.

Should keep him going for a few days