February 18, 2018 at 12:31 pm
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Looks like the RAFM has managed to spark up a new controversy…
By: otis - 27th February 2018 at 18:29
For sake of clarity perhaps I should have remarked that it is Elgar’s “Nimrod” in the advert, and not the one by either Hawker or BAE. As it is being played and not shown in sheet form, I suppose it is therefore “in the air” rather than static?
For further clarity, perhaps this thread could be better renamed as “RAFM use RAF publicity image to publicise RAF benevolent charity – or storm in Arnold’s teacup?”
By: Flying_Pencil - 26th February 2018 at 22:39
Tacky
Could not come up with something better??
By: John Green - 26th February 2018 at 12:39
Could be on the ground and moving or, on the ground and not moving e.g static on the ground !
By: Meddle - 26th February 2018 at 12:19
I would hate for it to be static anywhere else.
By: John Green - 26th February 2018 at 11:09
Is it in flight or, static on the ground ?
By: otis - 25th February 2018 at 21:40
I notice Nimrod is again being used in a building society tv advert.
By: Bob - 22nd February 2018 at 13:48
September-December 1940: Filton
March 1939-August 1941: Hawker Hurricane I
So I wasn’t wrong assuming they may have been Hurricane pilots?…
By: Arabella-Cox - 22nd February 2018 at 13:36
To answer #27, and without being drawn into the wider debate, I have all the names on the back of an original print of this image – somewhere!
I can tell you that this is 504 Squadron at Filton. Chap on far right is Haywood, second from right is ‘Wag’ Haw…I forget the others, but can supply the names when I dig out my image.
By: Arabella-Cox - 22nd February 2018 at 09:46
The DH9A is now on a pole.
Sat on a pole is better than being butchered to hang by wires.
That said they have also stuck the Gnat on a pole(s) which has required the removal of the wheels and the undercarriage doors. Unless these parts have been stuffed up the jet pipe or placed in the cockpit my money is on them getting misplaced and never getting re-fitted when it comes down off the pole.
By: Bob - 22nd February 2018 at 09:13
RAF: The First 100 Years’ exhibition
Someone is being optimistic there…
By: David Burke - 22nd February 2018 at 09:09
It will be fine Pen Pusher ! -there will be another museum director in the fullness of time and it will be all change again!
By: TonyL1962 - 22nd February 2018 at 07:38
And armed with a light sabre! :D:D
By: Pen Pusher - 22nd February 2018 at 06:10
Something else to give the museum whinges and moaners to complain about. The DH9A is now on a pole.
Our Aircraft Team of Volunteers have been busy bees today, cleaning our DH9a in Hangar 1, where it will be centrepiece of the Attack area of our ‘RAF: The First 100 Years’ exhibition

RAFM Photo
https://www.facebook.com/rafmuseum/posts/10156149161177612
Brian
By: Stratosphere - 21st February 2018 at 14:55
My view is that they are asking us to remember them and run alongside them in spirit, Funds raised ensuring that the RAFM will be there to inform future generations of the sacrifice of others, And yes this is a sensitive subject but at least they are trying .
By: TonyL1962 - 21st February 2018 at 13:21
Bit of a storm in a tea cup here?
I think the picture is a good one and does a decent job of connecting the history that the RAFM is there to record with the run that is raising money to help preserve not just that memory but also assist the RAF’s charities and benevolent fund through the RAF100 Appeal. It’s a damn good cause! From what I know of our family’s two wartime aircrew casualties they would have thought so too, were they here now, without any thought of disrespect.
Let’s get those balls unknotted shall we?
By: hampden98 - 21st February 2018 at 12:50
Didn’t the Pilots of the Battle of Britain fight for our freedom? Freedom of expression, freedom of speech?
I don’t see any harm with using the picture.
They did after all give their tomorrow so we can enjoy our today which is what I think the picture represents.
Perhaps we shouldn’t get so offended by something so trivial.
By: Maple 01 - 20th February 2018 at 16:28
it did not cause you offence before but does now?
Because it’s only just come to my attention – didn’t know there was a time-limit on pointing out bad taste (at best)
The community that made the posting is full of ex-RAF types…….perhaps we’re not all that keen on the concept art as it’s in bad taste?
the RAF charities that benefit from the money raised are to date somewhere near £90k better off for having had these events on.
Great, but could only be achieved by use of tasteless advertising?
Plus it doesn’t take too much digging online to see that the events are run, adjudicated, and managed by an external company to RAFM.
So either the RAFM approved the montage or no ‘grown-up’ saw it before it was released to do a ‘sanity check’ – impressive
By: Bob - 20th February 2018 at 15:42
The poster in post #31 is actually from the 2016 race…
What I said in post #36 above – “Back to the poster – it is from 2016…“…
By: Fournier Boy - 20th February 2018 at 14:33
For once I thought i’d do a bit of a fact check on this – I mean why let facts get in the way of having a pop at the RAFM!
The poster in post #31 is actually from the 2016 race, check the dates in September to clarify the day it fell on, so it’s quite reasonable to assume you’d get a 2016 medal in 2016. The much debated image had actually been floating around since 2015 at least (the earliest reference I could find) so it seems strange that on its 4th outing it’s now causing a few people to stir – did it not cause you offence before but does now?
As to the presumption that not too many people will be signing up, looking back the two races run each year appear to be near sell outs each year which would mean the RAF charities that benefit from the money raised are to date somewhere near £90k better off for having had these events on.
Plus it doesn’t take too much digging online to see that the events are run, adjudicated, and managed by an external company to RAFM.
Just the facts – quite easy to go and find out really – and i’m still not offended…
FB
By: Buster The Bear - 20th February 2018 at 00:18
Money for a worthwhile cause. Far more in life to be concerned about than an advert for a charity run. Far too little about the Second World War has been taught to our children, thus it should come as no surprise that the apparent offence it might cause has not been recognised before it was released.