September 17, 2004 at 6:09 pm
If anybody is interested SIA A340-500 9V-SGD operating Newark-Singapore diverted into LHR this afternoon at 15:00. Supposed to be a broken windscreen, although its seems strange for it to have had those sort of problems half way into its flight? Its parked by the Virgin hangar, no idea of its etd. Might interest anybody making a visit tomorrow?
By: A330Crazy - 19th September 2004 at 18:19
As usual i miss all the good goings on at LHR. Maybe it’ll be back on a reg flight basis another time… unlikely though.
Nope its not the first 345 to land at LHR… Air Canada used theres on trial flights to LHR last month – that stopped a few weeks ago though, and they are now back to using the 767/330 and 343.
By: Grey Area - 19th September 2004 at 16:40
Well, the aircraft arrived at LHR on Friday 17 September and was towed into the Virgin hangar at 15:45 local.
It taxied for departure from LHR at 10:30 local on Saturday 18 September.
The interval between these two times is, I think you will agree, rather less that 24 hours.
My source is a member of ops staff at LHR, and his information is corroborated by a number of postings on well-respected aviation newsgroups on Friday and Saturday.
By: skycruiser - 19th September 2004 at 16:32
And yet that’s what did happen. The aircraft was out of service for less than 24 hours, by the way, rather than for 2 days.
I am interested in your sources into the exact details of this.
By: Grey Area - 19th September 2004 at 08:02
And yet that’s what did happen. The aircraft was out of service for less than 24 hours, by the way, rather than for 2 days.
By: skycruiser - 19th September 2004 at 04:28
When you’re in mid-Atlantic it’s a bloody long way to anywhere! 😉
I think the point is that the parts required were ready and waiting, together with engineers experienced on the type, at LHR.
That probably wouldn’t have been the case at most US airports, for example and certainly wasn’t the case at any of the airports near to the planned route.
The route from Newark to Singapore doesn’t go over the Atlantic, the route goes north towards the Artic sea, hence my reason for questioning the divert. A prudent decision is to return to the departure airfield and have the part flown in, not fly to the other side of the Atlantic Ocean for a part then fly the pax around the world to get them home. You would have to put the pax up in a hotel and then fly them home eastbound which means two days to get them home and the aircraft out of revenue service.
The cost of it would be horrendous….quite simply you wouldn’t do it. Or look at it this way, you are flying from London to Hong Kong and have a problem, would you divert to JFK…No!!!!!!!
By: mongu - 18th September 2004 at 22:56
anyone know if its still at LHR ? – might be tempted to go down and see if I can see it.
By the way, is this the first ever A340-500 to land at LHR ?
I know that Emirates have used the A345 to LGW sometimes. I’m betting they might have scheduled a few LHR routes too?
By: BigJet - 18th September 2004 at 17:42
i saw it take off early this morning (saturday) and i was woundering why it was at LHR
By: LONdoner - 18th September 2004 at 17:22
anyone know if its still at LHR ? – might be tempted to go down and see if I can see it.
By the way, is this the first ever A340-500 to land at LHR ?
By: Ren Frew - 18th September 2004 at 16:42
When you’re in mid-Atlantic it’s a bloody long way to anywhere! 😉
I think the point is that the parts required were ready and waiting, together with engineers experienced on the type, at LHR.
That probably wouldn’t have been the case at most US airports, for example and certainly wasn’t the case at any of the airports near to the planned route.
Isn’t there an aviation equivalent of AutoGlass ? (lol) I’m wondering why they’d compromise safety by going to a distant airport just because it had the spare parts ?
Is a cracked windshield not considered a major safety issue ?
By: Grey Area - 18th September 2004 at 16:39
When you’re in mid-Atlantic it’s a bloody long way to anywhere! 😉
I think the point is that the parts required were ready and waiting, together with engineers experienced on the type, at LHR.
That probably wouldn’t have been the case at most US airports, for example and certainly wasn’t the case at any of the airports near to the planned route.
By: skycruiser - 18th September 2004 at 16:35
All sounds a little strange. As RIP said…WHY go to LHR. You would not divert to an airfield that far away so you can pick up the required part. It’s a bloody 7 hour flight to LHR.
By: Grey Area - 18th September 2004 at 10:15
Does it not fly over or very close to the North Pole?
Apparently the original plan was to divert to Copenhagen, but a replacement windscreen panel wasn’t available there.
Virgin, at LHR, had the parts available and were willing to make the repair – so LHR it was.
By: steve rowell - 18th September 2004 at 06:38
So much for the Worlds longest non-stop service
By: robbelc - 17th September 2004 at 21:01
Its now due out at 07:00 Saturday! Luckerly I saw it land, did thing it was missing a ‘lump’! I have heard it flew from abeam the Faroe Islands at FL150. I guess it came to LHR as VIR have the nearest A340 maint base?
By: RIPConcorde - 17th September 2004 at 18:25
If anybody is interested SIA A340-500 9V-SGD operating Newark-Singapore diverted into LHR this afternoon at 15:00. Supposed to be a broken windscreen, although its seems strange for it to have had those sort of problems half way into its flight? Its parked by the Virgin hangar, no idea of its etd. Might interest anybody making a visit tomorrow?
LHR?! Why LHR?! That is the other side of the Atlantic from it’s flight path is it not? Does it not fly over or very close to the North Pole?
By: Future Pilot - 17th September 2004 at 18:22
or BHX!? lol only kidding 🙂 would never happen
Wish it would though…:)
I think your probably right tenthije 🙂
By: tenthije - 17th September 2004 at 18:21
maybe because the maintenance fascilities are at LHR, also if the plane requires maintenance it is probably easier to arrange for a replacement plane at LHR then at PIK or MAN
By: Ren Frew - 17th September 2004 at 18:19
Would that be considered an emergency diversion or a minor one ?
Just wondering why they’d put down in a busy major like LHR and not go somewhere less busy like PIK, MAN or LGW ?