March 7, 2006 at 4:14 am
Hi folks,
Looking for a little help here. I was trying to compile a list of Ray’s film & TV credits, as his achievements are perhaps not as well known as Mark Hanna’s, and both naturally get rolled into ‘OFMC’ credits (for instance the OFMC website mentions The Battle of Britain Film – which MH434 certainly flew in, but Ray and Mark didn’t. On the IMDB Ray Hanna has a listing of films credited; which just consists of:
Flyboys (aerial coordinator)
Dark Blue World
Species (aerial ground coordinator: aerial unit)
The River Wild (helicopter pilot) (as Raymond G. Hanna)
Memphis Belle
Piece of Cake
Empire of the Sun
Hope & Glory
The Blockhouse (1973!)
I’m aware of the aviation films, but what aviation content was there in Species, The River Wild, and The Blockhouse? What’s missing? Saving Private Ryan?
Now I know there was a lot of TV as well, plus adverts. Anyone got a comprehensive listing – of Ray’s, NOT just OFMC credits, here?
Tough call to get right – please, no wild guesses, but if you do know, say so.
Many thanks!
By: Taifun - 26th January 2014 at 21:04
Good little site, bet some from here could add to it..
http://www.impdb.org/index.php?title=The_Internet_Movie_Plane_Database
By: Andover115 - 26th January 2014 at 15:24
Sorry this comment is about 7 1/2 years late but the series Monsignor Renard, was definitely a Mark Hanna credit, as it was during the filming of this series that he was involved in the crash of the Buchon, in Spain, where they were filming. It was as a result of the burns, sustained in this crash, that Mark died.
By: JDK - 21st June 2006 at 07:08
I know that MH434 was in a bridge too far, did one of the Hanna’s do the flying, if not, then who?
Neil Williams
Thanks for that as I could not find any info.
See my post 49, a whole six posts earlier. It’s not hard. :rolleyes:
Thanks for the input, JT Eagle.
By: pimpernel - 20th June 2006 at 21:35
Thanks for that as I could not find any info.
Played the DVD through my Hi-Fi, loud when the spit flew over the boy on the cycle. Scared the living s**t out of the cat :diablo: But what a sound.
B.P.
By: DazDaMan - 20th June 2006 at 18:32
Neil Williams

By: Eddie - 20th June 2006 at 16:03
Wasn’t it Neil Williams?
By: pimpernel - 20th June 2006 at 15:32
I know that MH434 was in a bridge too far, did one of the Hanna’s do the flying, if not, then who?
Thanks.
B.P.
By: DazDaMan - 20th June 2006 at 11:06
I remember a little of the filming of ‘Swords and Diamonds’ (I think that was the correct title as in ‘Knights Cross with…’) and I know the Buchon was used, and probably MH434. Would have been May/June 1993. There were at least a couple of ground scenes with OFMC ground crew types (sporting new short haircuts for the occasion) seeing in Mark and saying “Get any Tommies today?” type of things in English and (phonetic) German for the different international versions. About the only other thing I remember is the director (a Czech bloke who spoke no English) eating ice creams. I never heard if this film actually ever came out. It seemed fairly low budget.
I also recall that later (’94?) the OFMC Fury was painted up to represent an Fw 190 for an opening scene in a war film about women SOE agents (is this ‘Fall from Grace’?) which starred someone unlikely like Patsy Kensit or Elizabeth Hurley). Anyone have pics of the Fury?And what about the pop videos, which I think include:
Ultravox (MH434)
Travis (Buchon)
Fat Boy Slim (Hunter)JT
A pic of the Luftwaffe Fury has appeared on here before….
By: JT Eagle - 20th June 2006 at 10:52
Lesser-known OFMC credits
I remember a little of the filming of ‘Swords and Diamonds’ (I think that was the correct title as in ‘Knights Cross with…’) and I know the Buchon was used, and probably MH434. Would have been May/June 1993. There were at least a couple of ground scenes with OFMC ground crew types (sporting new short haircuts for the occasion) seeing in Mark and saying “Get any Tommies today?” type of things in English and (phonetic) German for the different international versions. About the only other thing I remember is the director (a Czech bloke who spoke no English) eating ice creams. I never heard if this film actually ever came out. It seemed fairly low budget.
I also recall that later (’94?) the OFMC Fury was painted up to represent an Fw 190 for an opening scene in a war film about women SOE agents (is this ‘Fall from Grace’?) which starred someone unlikely like Patsy Kensit or Elizabeth Hurley). Anyone have pics of the Fury?
And what about the pop videos, which I think include:
Ultravox (MH434)
Travis (Buchon)
Fat Boy Slim (Hunter)
JT
By: VoyTech - 20th June 2006 at 10:48
Too much of a coincidence to be anyone else thought unless the compiler messed it up already.
A quick google search produced a reference to an aviation-related Raymong G. Hanna here, complete with his e-mail address:
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/field_offices/fsdo/lgb/media/Employee%20Directory.pdf
By: DazDaMan - 20th June 2006 at 08:30
Over Here was featured in an article on the operation of Spits for TV and film work back in 1996, in Aeroplane. I’m *fairly* sure that the pilot in the opening sequences of the first episode is Mark Hanna.
By: JDK - 20th June 2006 at 01:28
Thanks pouakai,
Looks good to me overall. ‘A Bridge too far’ was Spitfire MH434, but most sources agree it was flown by Neil Williams, not Ray Hanna.
Cheers
By: pouakai - 20th June 2006 at 00:46
Updated list of credits
Greetings,
Thanks for all your input.
I’ve done a lot of surfing on the net (in particular the OFMC site) and have now a THIRD draft listing Ray and Mark Hanna’s film and TV credits.
RAY HANNA
The Flaxton Boys (4th series, circa 1973) as Spitfire pilot in opening credits
The Blockhouse (1973) as Spitfire pilot strafing ground positions
Hope and Glory (1987) as Spitfire pilot
Empire of the Sun (1987) as Aerial unit chief and Mustang pilot
Piece of Cake (1988) as Chief pilot, Spitfire pilot
Poirot – The Incredible Theft (1989) as Spitfire pilot
Memphis Belle (1990) Chief Pilot, Messerschmitt pilot
Perfect Hero (1990) a Spitfire pilot
Species (1995) as Aerial unit coordinator
Saving Private Ryan (1998) as Mustang pilot
Dark Blue World (2001) as Spitfire pilot
Flyboys (2006) as Aerial coordinator
River Wild is doubtful as Ray’s full name was Raynham not Raymond.
MARK HANNA
Empire of the Sun (1987) as Mustang pilot
Piece of Cake (1988) as deputy chief pilot, Spitfire pilot
Memphis Belle (1990) as Aerial coordinator, Messerschmitt pilot
Air America (1990) as Aerial Coordinator, pilot of Fairchild C-123 (?), pilot of Pilatus Turbo Porter and pilot Cessna Bird Dog
Perfect Hero (1990) as Spitfire pilot
Over Here (1995) as Spitfire Pilot
Tomorrow Never Dies (1997) as L39 Albatross pilot **
Saving Private Ryan (1998) As Mustang pilot
The Land Girls (1998) as Spitfire pilot
** the serial on the L39 was 28 08, which was Ray’s date of birth 28 August. A coincidence?
Other work
OFMC: Mrs. Dalloway (1997)
Hart’s War (2002)
Can you help fill in the missing gaps of information?
Showscan Theme Ride “Dogfight” (199?)
Fall from Grace (1993/4) A two-part TV mini series about SOE operations before D-Day. The OFMC’s Hawker Fury G-BTTA was painted in Luftwaffe colours.
Diamond Swords (1993?)
Lovejoy (199?) Mustangs used, pilots currently unknown
No Bananas (1996) It was a ten-part BBC mini series set in the early years of WWII as episodes have titles such as: Dunkirk (6) and Blitz (10). It premiered on 5/5/96, so OFMC flying was probably in 1995.
Hanging Around (199?) no details yet
Squadron (1982) The adventures of a fictional Rapid Deployment Unit of the RAF set in the early 1980s. Episode One “Memorial Flight” possibly had OFMC involvement. It was about an experimental plane, flown by an automated computer system, which goes out of control during a Battle Of Britain aerial display.
Spywatch (1996) Was a children’s action/adventure set in 1942 Britain. It is about two boys and a girl who have been evacuated to the countryside where spies are on the loose. Premiered 15/1/96, therefore OFMC would likely to have been working on it in 1995.
Goodnight Mister Tom (1998) Was a made for TV film set in an English village shortly before Dunkirk and starred John Thaw.
Monsignor Renard (1999) Was a four-part mini series set in German occupied
France in 1940 as seen through the eyes of a humble and extraordinary priest played by John Thaw.
Sam’s Circus (2001) Was a war drama set in post 1944 D-Day and follows the lives of an American Unit on the Continent. A 60-minute TV movie.
Foyle’s War (2002) Follows the life of a detective and his team in Hastings (Southern England) in WWII.
2002: 4 episodes, 2003: 4 episodes, 2004: 4 episodes and 2006: 2 episdoes.
Season One, Episode Four is titled “Eagle Day” and features Spitfires.
Great Britons (2002) Was BBC mini series. The OFMC were involved in the Churchill episode.
HP Sauce commercial (199?) no details yet
See OFMC website for larger listing of advertising work
The Air Show (BBC series) (199?) no details yet
Farnborough (1996) no pilot details yet
Music Videos/DVDs:
Ultravox (199?) Spitfire MH434 used (no pilot details yet)
Travis (1999) The OFMC Buchon used (was this Mark?)
Song: Writing To Reach You
The aircraft is in an earlier black/grey colour scheme and strafes the singer/writer Francis Healey as he walks and sings through the countryside. There are good pyrotechnics of “exploding” cannon shells as he runs for cover. It can be viewed on their SINGLES dvd.
Fat Boy Slim (2000) The OFMC Hunter used (was this Mark?)
Song: Bird of Prey
A pilot climbs into the cockpit of the Hunter, which takes off and soars through the clouds.
This can be found through Google with the key words.
Thats my 90c worth.
Feedback/corrections as ever are welcome.
By: DazDaMan - 15th March 2006 at 13:01
I’ll agree with you there, a_g.
By: adrian_gray - 15th March 2006 at 10:47
To hopefully restore a certain amount of normality to this thread – this is from the Ray Hann tribute thread on pprune:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2447703#post2447703
First post on the page, first pic of MH434 on the ground. I’m guessing from the skyline that it’s the far end of the taxiway at Duxford – unfortunately the rellies I had just over that hill have now moved. Rats!
Anyway, is that not the most staggeringly evocative photo?
ADrian
By: Merlin3945 - 14th March 2006 at 16:55
Merlin, Barry,
Please read the thread carefully before posting.
We’ve established that Ray was NOT a qualified helicopter pilot.
I’d troubled to post legible versions of the IMDB data at the very start. Please don’t make establishing facts more difficult by muddying already posted data.
Sorry to sound grumpy, but thinking and posting need to go together.
It’s not a simple story, as I said at the start.
So if I quote this from my post “He doesnt need to have been a pilot to be listed in the Helicopter Unit section”
I gather that doesnt mean anything to you then. Dont worry about seeming grumpy I am most of the time. Oops sorry that was the wife talking about me then.
As I said above he can easily be listed in the credit in the unit but it doesnt mean he was a pilot within it.
That bit I did get from your post that he was not a heli pilot. I dont have problems with reading yet and certainly saw that in your post.
Too much of a coincidence to be anyone else thought unless the compiler messed it up already.
By: barrythemod - 13th March 2006 at 09:44
opps grumpy..My Bad!…All you had to say was “Info previously known”
Seeing as my 2 pennyworth was of no use,I will delete it to save valuable space on this forum.
Sorry…….creeps away to sit on the naughty step again 😎
I know my place 😀
By: JDK - 13th March 2006 at 09:38
Merlin, Barry,
Please read the thread carefully before posting.
We’ve established that Ray was NOT a qualified helicopter pilot.
I’d troubled to post legible versions of the IMDB data at the very start. Please don’t make establishing facts more difficult by muddying already posted data.
Sorry to sound grumpy, but thinking and posting need to go together.
It’s not a simple story, as I said at the start.
By: DazDaMan - 13th March 2006 at 09:05
But it’s not – I haven’t seen The River Wild for some years, but I’m certain there’s no helicopter, crashed or otherwise, in it…
By: Merlin3945 - 13th March 2006 at 08:48
“Actor” Below The Line Other Physical Effects Actor Credits
The Legend of Billie Jean (1985) Jimmy J JudgeBack to Top
Below The Line Credits
The Dark Blue World (2001) “Pilot” Memphis Belle (1990) “chief Pilot” Empire of the Sun (1987) “chief Pilot” (Mustang)
Other Credits
Species (1995) “aerial ground coordinator” (Aerial unit)
The River Wild (1994) helicopter unit
Physical Effects Credits
Saving Private Ryan (1998) Stunts
This was taken from the link to the film credits for Ray Hanna. If you click his name it gives a list of other film credits. It seem very similar to Ray own credits but is it a coincidence and there is another Ray Hanna. I also noticed that there was a James Hanna above him in aerial work as well.
Really looks like it could be Ray. He doesnt need to have been a pilot to be listed in the Helicopter Unit section he could be an aerial coordinator or aerial camera advisor or anything but just attached to the heli unit.
Why dont you write to the film company and try and get an answer from them.
As far as the heli unit underwater goes sound like it was simply a crashed heli that was underwater at some point in the film. therefore an underwater heli unit. simple.
just looked at the other film listings and they have definately only got 1 Ray Hanna so unless the people doing the write up for the website have got it wrong then it is definately the same Ray Hanna.
The films we know he is in only list 1 Ray Hanna not 2.
I am no expert but it seems like a closed case to me.