I wonder if there is any chance the RAF museum could be persuaded to allow their Snipe & repro RE8 etc, to fly at the Shuttleworth collection ?, even if it’s only once, it would be fantastic.
ANY ONE WANT TO START A PETITION ???:diablo:.
Bob T.
By: ErrolC - 22nd February 2014 at 23:10
RE8 & Snipe at Old Warden – Hanriot update
The Hanriot was on static at the TVAL show on Feb 22nd (markings unchanged). Gene deMarco has flown it for a couple of hours so far.
By: ErrolC - 10th February 2014 at 20:07
I can’t find a mention on this forum that the Hanriot HD-1 is now on the Register in NZ, and TVAL hope to display it on Feb 22nd.
http://rnzaf.proboards.com/thread/20744/hanriot-hd-1
Hopefully the weather and restoration gods play ball, and there will be photos at
http://rnzaf.proboards.com/thread/20781/tval-evening-airshow-hood-aerodrome?page=2
By: Avro Avian - 28th April 2012 at 13:13
Brilliant! Thanks Dave! 🙂
Wish I was there….:(
By: Dave Homewood - 28th April 2012 at 10:46
Check out the selection of photos being posted on my forum from today’s amazing TVAL show. I wish I had made it down to that one, wow!
http://rnzaf.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=airshow&action=display&thread=15903
By: Melvyn Hiscock - 28th April 2012 at 00:55
Melv, Don Cashmore’s Tabloid didnt fly with a Warner. It had a continental in it, I think a Warner would be kinda big for a Tabloid:D
It really is ‘pick up Melvyn’ week. At least with the Continental it wasn’t wasting another Warner. They are hard enough to find for the aeroplanes that should have them!
The point was, the Strutter was built at Lands End
By: The Blue Max - 27th April 2012 at 20:49
The Strutter was originally built to be a two seat trainer for pilots at Thorpe Park but converted to a single seater for the RAF musuem. At that time a replica had to have flown to be accepted and so it flew for about 1 1/2 hours. Don Cashmore’s Tabloid was flown with a Warner Scarab and ailerons before going into the museum and Bristol his M1C was also made, flown minimally, and then retired to the museum.
Viv also had, at one time, a spare set of Camel wings and these went onto the DH2 replica.
Melv, Don Cashmore’s Tabloid didnt fly with a Warner. It had a continental in it, I think a Warner would be kinda big for a Tabloid:D
By: Melvyn Hiscock - 27th April 2012 at 18:31
This is correct. I seem to recall that it was flown once at Lands End by Tony Harold. He used to fly some of Leisure Sport’s WW1 replicas in displays, but sadly died later in a crash at North Weald. I have happy memories of experiencing aerobatics with Tony as pilot in Tiger Moth and Chipmunk etc on a few occasions.
Tim
The Strutter was originally built to be a two seat trainer for pilots at Thorpe Park but converted to a single seater for the RAF musuem. At that time a replica had to have flown to be accepted and so it flew for about 1 1/2 hours. Don Cashmore’s Tabloid was flown with a Warner Scarab and ailerons before going into the museum and Bristol his M1C was also made, flown minimally, and then retired to the museum.
Viv also had, at one time, a spare set of Camel wings and these went onto the DH2 replica.
By: Consul - 27th April 2012 at 16:06
The 1 1/2 Strutter in Hendon IS a Replica, it was built by Viv Bellamy and if I recall correct it only flew a couple of times before going into the musem.
I have a set of wing ribs (non flying)for one in the workshop if anyone wants one????
This is correct. I seem to recall that it was flown once at Lands End by Tony Harold. He used to fly some of Leisure Sport’s WW1 replicas in displays, but sadly died later in a crash at North Weald. I have happy memories of experiencing aerobatics with Tony as pilot in Tiger Moth and Chipmunk etc on a few occasions.
Tim
By: David Burke - 27th April 2012 at 14:09
Indeed whilst there are a couple of Electra Junior’s with a Cotton connection -the outstanding example is in the U.S.A and its contribution to the British war effort is without parallel .
By: TEXANTOMCAT - 27th April 2012 at 13:43
Applause for Sidney Cottons Lockheed in the RAFM, great choice.
By: David Burke - 27th April 2012 at 11:15
One cockpit at Flixton -sadly outside . Should be some abroad that were converted for foreign military sales -India springs to mind.
By: TwinOtter23 - 27th April 2012 at 10:42
B2(Mod) / B(I)8(Mod) here! 😉
By: SADSACK - 27th April 2012 at 10:27
re;
No cockpits anywhere?
By: DaveF68 - 27th April 2012 at 01:12
how many survive? its a variant I have never actually seen in a museum
3 IIRC (although one now has a B6 canopy and long nose, WT333 at Bruntingthorpe) the ones in original condition are WT346 in NZ and XM264 in Germany
By: Dave Homewood - 26th April 2012 at 22:20
Mike the Air Force Museum of New Zealand’s Canberra is still in storage due to lack of space, and manpower and funds for restoring it. It is in the queue though. They are currently extending the museum buildings and two of the three projects currently under restoration (the Oxford and Kittyhawk) are nearing completion which will mean only the Vildebeest will be in the workshop. I’m told after that the Catalina will be finished and displayed and then the Canberra will be tackled.Whether that all pans out remains to be seen. They have a pristine RAAF Canberra on dispaly already which has been there since 1987.
By: Dave Homewood - 26th April 2012 at 22:16
In another thread there was mention of one of the Vincent kits of parts in NZ coming to the UK as a swap, would this be part of the same deal with TVAL being discussed here?
No. It belongs to a completely different collection and as far as I am aware no deal has been agreed to.
By: SADSACK - 26th April 2012 at 21:27
re;
how many survive? its a variant I have never actually seen in a museum
By: David Burke - 26th April 2012 at 19:17
Not quite true – it was put up for disposal by the RAFM. It was bought by a dealer who then was approached by the RNZAF museum -he then sold it to them. It has been in storage since arriving in N.Z.
By: Mike J - 26th April 2012 at 18:47
A Canberra B.8. Always had a soft spot for the intruder version and having no bomber/intruder Canberra in the collection is I think a notable omission. I’m not sure if any of the retired Indian examples saw previous RAF service and would be eligible.
They had one, and gave it away to NZ. I’m not sure it has ever been re-assembled out there.
By: WJ244 - 26th April 2012 at 18:22
WJ244, when they’ve gone abroad, rarely does the opportunity for repatriation arise – and yes, I know that the Hanriot contradicts that theory. But try asking the New Zealanders to return G-ADPR! In my opinion that makes it important for national collections to hang onto what they have and only to do deals when they get as good as they give. I do not consider a modern replica to equate in value to a largely original airframe. Thus the disposal of the latter does not justify the receipt of the former.
Seems we both agree that once they have gone there is little chance of any of the RAF Museum originals returning to the UK. I understand the desire to acquire replicas (probably more accurately reproductions) to fill holes in the collection but this shouldn’t mean the disposal of rare original airframes.
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