August 29, 2006 at 5:32 pm
Ok….before I start, I apologise to anyone or everyone..I’m getting this off my chest. Have a look at the following image…>>
……right so what I can hear you thinking…its a CSA Boeing 737, so what!
I have just had this photograph rejected from a popular aviation photography website for what…..!! Guess??
Not being straight on the horizon!!
I give up in life….I really do..
This then begs the argument, if my image is not straight on the horizon, then how can this be ascertained as the horizon isnt in view!
If (and only if) the aircraft was turning towards me like it had done not 2 minutes before the image was taken then because it was at an angle to me does that make it not straight on the horizon. A case point example of this has occurred to me over the last week.
If you have every been to Dusseldorf and seen the taxiway at the railway station end of the runway you will notice that the exit taxyway from the end is actually on a small gradient. When taking photographs from the roof of the railway station, the elevation makes the slope seem more apparent and the following image was also rejected…
Not being straight on the horizon!!
No come on guys…..give me back my confidence, all appeals have been fruitless
MTIA
Mark
(sorry for the rant)
By: Skymonster - 30th August 2006 at 15:28
If you don’t mind me saying Andy I really wasn’t expcting that responce when in your signature you have….
Don’t know what you’re talking about, or why you made that quote up and suggested that it came from me! π
Andy
By: E-GPK - 30th August 2006 at 15:23
Hi Peter
Where is the photo that you have sorted out
E-GPK
By: G-PIK - 30th August 2006 at 13:59
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If you have every been to Dusseldorf and seen the taxiway at the railway station end of the runway you will notice that the exit taxyway from the end is actually on a small gradient. When taking photographs from the roof of the railway station, the elevation makes the slope seem more apparent and the following image was also rejected…
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I sympathise with you as well, I was in Dusseldorf last month and I’m in the middle of trying to upload 100 or so photos. I’m finding that sometimes I get most on, the next day a lot get rejected due to the horizon! I’m convinced as well that it depends on the screener(s) on that particular day. One thing though, due to more and more people using DSLR’s, the standard has never been higher, perhaps they can afford to be more picky than ever!
By: markwinterb - 30th August 2006 at 06:58
Thanks for your comments folks….I learned so much!!
By: Future Pilot - 29th August 2006 at 22:43
Anyway, most of the a.net screeners are idiots who are far too anal these days. I’m glad I’m not doing that job anymore, and indeed I really can’t be bothered with the site at all now. There are other outlets for good photographers to exhibit their work, and many who want to move on realise that fact sooner or later.
If you don’t mind me saying Andy I really wasn’t expcting that responce when in your signature you have….
The largest aviation photo site – the best pictures. Click here!
Just an minor observation from me is all :D.
By: Skymonster - 29th August 2006 at 22:38
The Turkish does have a touch of the leans, as evidenced by the pole and the buildings – needs slight clockwise rotation, but the revised version is rotated too much. The CSA I can’t make sense of.
Anyway, most of the a.net screeners are idiots who are far too anal these days. I’m glad I’m not doing that job anymore, and indeed I really can’t be bothered with the site at all now. There are other outlets for good photographers to exhibit their work, and many who want to move on realise that fact sooner or later.
Andy
By: markwinterb - 29th August 2006 at 21:23
Hi Jonathan,
A.Net are very picky aren’t they, I guess I am too used to getting my photos accepted….I am a bit of a stickler for getting it right first time and I am too much of a perfectionist, It took my over a year to even get a picture accepted on their site. I have nearly 500 on airfleets.net and I know the screening isnt as tough as Jp or Airliners.
I get the impression from looking at the screening history on AF that someone has suddenly got tough. I upload in batches of 15 and the last 5 uploads have been 100% acceptance..
I know, I’m having a moan…….I better shut up!!
Thanks Jon
Mark
By: BHXlocal - 29th August 2006 at 21:17
By getting rejections, I think it helps me get better at aviation photography, personally. I.e. Getting horizon straight, correct camera settings, Editing skills etc.
When I first started it, I had soooo many rejections and I could have easily gave up but I didn’t and now I consider my shots are getting better (Hopefully!) π
When you upload to A.net, they are very very picky on there shots and want everything to be perfect. If I get a rejection from them, all I say is ‘Stuff that! I think it looks good!’ π
By: markwinterb - 29th August 2006 at 17:52
Thanks for your replies Sam, EK & Mark….you are quite right it may well depend on what side of the bed they got out of….
Just a bit wazzed off with the incostistency….it annoys me because I screen for airfleets and I cant understand some of the decisions sometimes.
You may well know that it takes 2 people to come to the same decision when screening and sometimes a third….but I am struggling to understand some of the technique used in the train of thought of some of these people….
The queues on airlfeets are not as bad as JP and even airliners.net has come down quite abit since they reduced the queues to 2 per person for those under 50 acceptances
Mark
By: Mark L - 29th August 2006 at 17:44
Get used to it is all I can say. I’m sure all the other photographers on here who do, or ever have uploaded (or attempted to upload) their photographs will agree with me in saying that 50% of the time, the decision to accept a photo can come down to what side of the bed the screener got out of in the morning.
In fairness the scope for inconsistency is very high, given the number of photographs that are screened over a relatively short period of time, and even the best get photos rejected for obscure and ultimatley false reasons.
By: EK. - 29th August 2006 at 17:43
Itβs a quality picture and better than others I have seen on a.net and JP. Just re-upload it and you might get a different screener that accepts it, thatβs if that is how uploads to these sites work.
By: RingwaySam - 29th August 2006 at 17:39
Mark,
At threshold it’s really hard to get the horizon right. The runway in the shot may be straight but all the building’s and lamp posts will be tilting. If it’s JetPhotos then you can always appeal your rejection if your not happy with it…