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Andy from Beds plus Steve? Isn’t that slightly over two normal people in -um- weight? (And well under in ‘normal’) 😀

Pity I can’t be there to help make it four in Normals… and one in weight.

Thanks for the response Moggy. Where is your Suffolk to clouds trip report?

Cheers

Andy’s not that big and the only weight Patty is neutral due to being full of hot air (arf arf). I figured the three of us in a four-seater . . .

Melv

Andy from Beds plus Steve? Isn’t that slightly over two normal people in -um- weight? (And well under in ‘normal’) 😀

Pity I can’t be there to help make it four in Normals… and one in weight.

Thanks for the response Moggy. Where is your Suffolk to clouds trip report?

Cheers

😮 😀 😀

As for flying the Big Red Beast, well if your offering it would be rude not to. 😀 😀

Just remember who rebuilt it . . .

Melv

Abso-bleedin-loutely but why wait? Get stuck in, it is all flying and the tailwheel will sharpen you up on the ground and make you concentrate more on approaches!

At the moment I am looking forward to converting onto the BRB (Big Red Beast). I suppose you’ll want a go in that too . . . .

Melv

I need to wait because I don’t own the aircraft, so need to hang on a bit until the owners says yes, although we have started to discuss it 😀

As for flying the Big Red Beast, well if your offering it would be rude not to. 😀 😀

is that rent as in hire or rip apart?

K

Arf arf, Actually rent. This would have been G-OVFR, the very 172 that has Steph’s bum print on the seat. I normally fly two seaters (that few friends) but there was talk of a little trip out with Patty Stephenson, the well known American Spoonerism, and Andy From Beds, the well known Norfolk migrant.

Melv

Don’t get me wrong, I am intending to fly other types and will hopefully be moving on to the Auster in another 10 / 15 hours or so, that really should sharpen me up, from there on, well I guess we will see what happens in the future, at the moment I’m just happy to be flying.

Abso-bleedin-loutely but why wait? Get stuck in, it is all flying and the tailwheel will sharpen you up on the ground and make you concentrate more on approaches!

At the moment I am looking forward to converting onto the BRB (Big Red Beast). I suppose you’ll want a go in that too . . . .

Melv

very nearly had to rent a 172 today!
Melvyn

is that rent as in hire or rip apart?

K

Don’t get me wrong, I am intending to fly other types and will hopefully be moving on to the Auster in another 10 / 15 hours or so, that really should sharpen me up, from there on, well I guess we will see what happens in the future, at the moment I’m just happy to be flying.

Part of my reason for not learning to fly 10 years ago was that in my youthful state I looked at the Cessna / Piper range and thought ‘I don’t want to fly one of those!!’ and wanted to fly something more interesting!!!

I was lucky as I started learning at Old Sarum and had a couple of trips in a 150 but then, after a break of about two years, I started again at Thruxton on the Rollason Condor. I was determined not to become a one-type pilot as I wanted to fly aeroplanes not just one type so I also flew the DR400, T67 and Cherokee 180. Doing my licence on a tailwheel was the most sensible thing I did. The Condor was great for bimbling around but it didn’t really have enough instruments to make that part challenging!

Great little aeroplane though.

Since then I have flown a wide variety of types and very nearly had to rent a 172 today!

Melvyn

I currently fly a 180hp 172 having trained on a 150hp thing, the extra hp makes a huge amount of difference to the general performance of the aircraft.
Part of my reason for not learning to fly 10 years ago was that in my youthful state I looked at the Cessna / Piper range and thought ‘I don’t want to fly one of those!!’ and wanted to fly something more interesting!!!
Looking back now I can see how stupid I was and how much I have missed out on, however I am attempting to make up for it now by flying at every opportunity, now where did i put that bag of extra special sunshine that I’d been saving, I could just do with it now!!

Not really. Very much a part of the 1950’s American attempt to make flying as little like flying and as much like driving a car as possible. Nothing wrong with them, they are just a tool for travelling from A to B

Moggy

Agreed, if they were as bad as some people say then they would not have made aout 36,000 of the various versions. I also agree with YAK11 that a 172 with a decent engine is a good thing. Alan House has a Hawk XP which he flew over from the US. I flew that back from Hasselt in Belgium a few years back after we had been looking at Saab Safir parts (now, the Safir is a NICE aeroplane).

Small engined 172s, however, are not my tasse de the. (Final bit there just for Steph.)

Melv

I too have had a look at a rather stripped down Piper Pacer fuselage recently, thankfully its well underway to being straight again and restored to full health.

🙂 🙂 🙂

Moggy

Kylie’s the same . . .

Where and when did you do your rating? I’d be interested to know.

I did it at Coventry on the Texas Taildragger G-HART when I was working for Atlantique 1997 / 8

That sounds like it had had a late night out in the fleshpots of Clacton!

Are there any?

Don’t they resemble an aeroplane?

Not really. Very much a part of the 1950’s American attempt to make flying as little like flying and as much like driving a car as possible. Nothing wrong with them, they are just a tool for travelling from A to B

Moggy

The 172 is a lovely aeroplane with the right engine!!!!

Good luck on the course Steve, any idea who your instructor will be?

I too have had a look at a rather stripped down Piper Pacer fuselage recently, thankfully its well underway to being straight again and restored to full health.

Word of caution.

Ring in advance.

Kylie’s the same . . .

Last year I needed the “Instructor two-yearly hour” and decided a bimble around the Clacton circuit in the Cub sounded just the ticket.

Where and when did you do your rating? I’d be interested to know.

Rang in the morning and confirmed.

Arrived at 2pm and the Cub had gone ‘out of hours’.

That sounds like it had had a late night out in the fleshpots of Clacton!

Spent 60-something minutes of tedium in a 172 instead 🙁

Moggy

Don’t they resemble an aeroplane?

The US Short Wing Piper Club is the best.

There was a UK Vintage Piper Aeroplane Club but it seemed to undergo some sort of legally inspired trauma a couple of years back and I’ve lost track of it.

Friend of mine in France has had a lovely conversion done giving a ‘glass’ roof. Transforms the aircraft.

November Echo.? Complete, awaiting paperwork 😡

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!

Moggy

Saw a TriPacer in smaller bits than yours in a garage here this Arvo, here in TO, Moggy. Any good Piper web places you can point the owner to?

Hmm, I’ll bear that in mind, thanks. 🙂

Any news on when the Colt’s back in the air? You must be crawling up the walls by now mate.

Word of caution.

Ring in advance.

Last year I needed the “Instructor two-yearly hour” and decided a bimble around the Clacton circuit in the Cub sounded just the ticket.

Rang in the morning and confirmed.

Arrived at 2pm and the Cub had gone ‘out of hours’.

Spent 60-something minutes of tedium in a 172 instead 🙁

Moggy