"Red Dawn" Hinds

Going slightly off topis does anybody know what was the purpose and fate af around 15 ‘Hinds’ made out of S55’s that I saw in sandford, Florida in 1990?
They werent bad copies but must have been difficult to see out of as the cockpit windoes were where the hinds engine intakes went!

There was a program to convert S-55s into Hind lookalike US Army drones for anti-aircraft and recognition training. With the end of the Cold war, the program was cancelled.Now the US Army used real Hinds to play the enemy in excercises….though I don’t think they’re target drones.
It was another of the plans to put surplus S-55 (H-19s) to use…including a quiet sightseeing helicopter with a US turbine engine and a new 5 blade rotor system.
Another similar plan was to ship them to China and convert them to turbine power there as a low cost civilian utility ship.

FYI…Sikorsky S-62s have also played Hinds on on film…I forget which one, but civilian South African ships were modified for something…perhaps Rambo 2.

Actually, looking at that photo Martin just posted, and the one on the link I posted, I don’t think they are the same as the Hinds in the film Red Dawn. The cosmetic framework round the front is definately different, as are the wings.

A Red Dawn one can be found on this page here, though not a great photo (click this link then scan down the movies on the left and click Red Dawn)
http://www.fast-rewind.com/

Think that is a Puma as well – the sponsons at the rear of the fuselage and the rectangular opening in the underside are all recognition points.
The RAF still uses Pumas, just got a load from the South Africans so they’ll be around for a while yet.

Flood

I seem to remember a Hind lookalike in an issue of Flypast some time ago…

Yep i think you’re right but it was based on a Whirlwind (badly) I’m sure it was in the UK somewhere…

Historic?

They may be helicopters but they are one of the few that really look the business and are certainly historic in my eyes.

At the beginning of the ‘Velvet Revolution’ in 1993 we all trooped over to Czechoslovakia with Guy Black’s Mk IX Spitfire, in full post WWII Czech livery, to an airshow at Roudnice. It was the star. Great fun. There were Hinds a’plenty

For a brief moment it looked like I might have ‘organised’ a little sightseeing trip but it was not to happen… 🙁

It didn’t seem, at that time, so long previously that a defector could name his price for ‘departing’ with one of these.

Mark

Going slightly off topis does anybody know what was the purpose and fate af around 15 ‘Hinds’ made out of S55’s that I saw in sandford, Florida in 1990?
They werent bad copies but must have been difficult to see out of as the cockpit windoes were where the hinds engine intakes went!

See http://www.rotaryaction.com/r.html for more information and pictures on the ‘Rambo’ Hind mockups.

Voytech, Daz meant Duxfordhawk edited his post, not yours. I got the same message as you did, but in the meantime he must have changed what he wrote.

Yes, but there was one reply from myself which seems to be missing, and I am confused if: 1) I have somehow removed it without knowing that I did that; 2) someone else removed it. It wasn’t anything important, but I would rather learn what happened before the same thing occurs with a more important post.

As for “windmill-type flying creatures do not deserve to be discussed on this noble forum” – err, I think Pumas and Hinds are fairly historical, aren’t they? They are certainly not modern, and nor is the film.

I remember the times before Mi-24 helicopters came to this earth, so they don’t seem that historical to me. The last time I photographed them was about eight months ago, and that was at an operational base rather than a musem. Having said that, I don’t have anything against this thread being here and not on the “Modern Military Aviation” nearby, although the reason I looked at this thread at all was that Hind only linked with the Hawker bi-plane for me.

Actually, looking at that photo Martin just posted, and the one on the link I posted, I don’t think they are the same as the Hinds in the film Red Dawn. The cosmetic framework round the front is definately different, as are the wings.

A Red Dawn one can be found on this page here, though not a great photo (click this link then scan down the movies on the left and click Red Dawn)
http://www.fast-rewind.com/

Voytech, Daz meant Duxfordhawk edited his post, not yours. I got the same message as you did, but in the meantime he must have changed what he wrote.

As for “windmill-type flying creatures do not deserve to be discussed on this noble forum” – err, I think Pumas and Hinds are fairly historical, aren’t they? They are certainly not modern, and nor is the film.

no comment

Perhaps he edited it before you looked at it?

Learning all the time! Can someone edit my posts? Or can I edit them without realising it?

Perhaps he edited it before you looked at it?

Can someone tell me if it is my computer or something in this forum? I have received this notificaiton on my e-mail:
Hello VoyTech,

duxfordhawk has just replied to a thread you have subscribed to entitled – “Red Dawn” Hinds – in the Historic Aviation forum of Key Publishing Ltd Aviation Forums.

Here is the message that has just been posted:
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I am thinking Puma too here’s is one
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but I can’t see this line anywhere in the thread. Not to mention that one of my posts is not shown here, either.

Perhaps it is something to do with the fact that these windmill-type flying creatures do not deserve to be discussed on this noble forum?

I seem to remember a Hind lookalike in an issue of Flypast some time ago…

Thanks guys. I thought there was something vaguely familiar about them, but I’d completely forgotten about the existence of the Puma. Didn’t the RAF used to use them? Or the British Army at least?

Red Dawn stands up to time far better than Rambo ever did.

I am not really a helecopter fan but i do have a liking for the Hind D , The “Fake” i think is a Puma as well and i thought i post a picture of a Puma i took last year

Was the same one in that stupid Rambo film where he was in Afghanistan?
Knew I’d seen one somewhere before.

Flood

Isn’t it a Puma?

Well, that ones a Puma.

Flood