May 13, 2009 at 1:30 am
Is this the way to get those lost historic aircraft back, either static or flying.
Whirlwinds, Typhoons, Tempests, Hornets, Defiants, Battles, Mosquitoes all at your favourite airshows, all a fraction of the cost of a full scale buildโฆ
I would rather see a flying Whirlwind made as above than nothing at allโฆ ๐
By: keithnewsome - 13th May 2009 at 19:30
I visited the LMA show at Rougham a few days ago, very impressed with some of these models ! Posted a few photos in Airshow Photos section of Photographic above.
Keith.
By: Brian Doherty - 13th May 2009 at 17:01
Moggy, their getting there listen to this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylCtXK0z9us&feature=related
I imagine the Chinese fibre glass Lanc’s were built in much the same way as the SU27 I know alot would like to see any replicas built to the very inch an exact match, but it just isn’t every going to happen, the costs are just too prohibitive… I would not mind one little bit to see a full scale Whirly or any other lost aircraft built using these very same techniques, and if it could move under its own power using a Jag V12 or V8 or even a VW rather than a couple of Peregrines I would not care, just to see a full in your face, full scale accurate replica (Exterior) would be wonderful. And something that good for say 25 – 50k or even 100k would be so much more attainable than something costing 1.5million plus…
Stuart
Hi Stuart,
Don’t forget the techniques and time taken to produce this SU27, is to enable future kits to be produced, it does not need these moulds and plugs to be made for a one off, the normal techniques for producing a one off, starts with designing and making the body frames, wing ribs, etc., and going from there, you will be using glass and resins but not as complex, time consuming or expensive. If we are allowed to mention a ‘magazine’ I find the one mentioned on ‘rcjetinternational.com’ a very good guide to the whole area.
Cheers Brian.:D
By: Moggy C - 13th May 2009 at 12:23
I would not mind one little bit to see a full scale Whirly or any other lost aircraft built using these very same techniques, and if it could move under its own power using a Jag V12 or V8 or even a VW rather than a couple of Peregrines I would not care, just to see a full in your face, full scale accurate replica (Exterior) would be wonderful. And something that good for say 25 – 50k or even 100k would be so much more attainable than something costing 1.5million plus…
I’m with you on this.
Moggy
By: Nashio966 - 13th May 2009 at 12:06
Indeed. But it was more the piston-engined types I was thinking of. They are never even close to realistic.
Moggy
http://www.enginehistory.org/ModelEngines/Hares/Merlin%20XX/MerlinXX.mpg
or one of these in your spitfire!!!
By: Nashio966 - 13th May 2009 at 12:03
insane, these guys are insane !
http://www.largemodelassociation.com/construction.htm#Simon%20Stegals%20Valient
I bet the red tape alone in flying one of these must take as long as the building !?
the valiant crashed on its test flight i think, there have been two colossal 20ft + span B52 models to date, both have crashed and been destroyed
By: BSG-75 - 13th May 2009 at 11:58
*^%$%^& !!!
insane, these guys are insane !
http://www.largemodelassociation.com/construction.htm#Simon%20Stegals%20Valient
I bet the red tape alone in flying one of these must take as long as the building !?
By: MrBlueSky - 13th May 2009 at 11:57
Indeed. But it was more the piston-engined types I was thinking of. They are never even close to realistic.
Moggy
Moggy, their getting there listen to this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylCtXK0z9us&feature=related
I imagine the Chinese fibre glass Lanc’s were built in much the same way as the SU27 I know alot would like to see any replicas built to the very inch an exact match, but it just isn’t every going to happen, the costs are just too prohibitive… I would not mind one little bit to see a full scale Whirly or any other lost aircraft built using these very same techniques, and if it could move under its own power using a Jag V12 or V8 or even a VW rather than a couple of Peregrines I would not care, just to see a full in your face, full scale accurate replica (Exterior) would be wonderful. And something that good for say 25 – 50k or even 100k would be so much more attainable than something costing 1.5million plus…
Stuart
By: Nashio966 - 13th May 2009 at 11:47
ah, but have you seen this?http://www.largemodelassociation.com/keith_mitchell_TSR2.htm
I had drafted a 1/4 scale one myself, but quickly realised that it was beyond my time, skills, and wallet ๐ looking into some other projects though ๐
By: BSG-75 - 13th May 2009 at 11:39
talk to the LMA about it (large model association) though be careful. before proposing such a large model, you’re likely to get your teeth bitten out …
look at post number 17 here – http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=83519
amazing……as I said at the time, he’ll end up on a UN embargo for arms smuggling !!!:diablo:
By: Moggy C - 13th May 2009 at 11:23
Your comment about sound Moggie, while being true for most, in some cases comes close to original, in scale of course, the big Hunter is a case in point, although the ‘blue note’ escapes it!
Indeed. But it was more the piston-engined types I was thinking of. They are never even close to realistic.
Moggy
By: Nashio966 - 13th May 2009 at 11:15
talk to the LMA about it (large model association) though be careful. before proposing such a large model, you’re likely to get your teeth bitten out …
By: Brian Doherty - 13th May 2009 at 11:13
I got interested in these large flying models after seeing a short article in Flypast or Aeroplane, they are well worth going to see at one of the 4 major shows they have each year. Check out through LMA or Large Model Aircraft in google and see their pictures from the shows. You can get them with 16′ + wingspan!. They have various classes of model, each of which requires a specific pilots licence to fly, over 20Kg it is very stringent.
The engines range includes turboprop, ducted fan, turbine, etc.
I have seen a speed delta approx 6′ span go down the flight line in excess of 300mph. The large models I have seen include the 3V’s, B52, Concorde, Comet 4, Singapore flying boat, Hunter, Catalina, DC3, Magister (1/2 scale), Wellintons, Lancasters, B17, et al..
Your comment about sound Moggie, while being true for most, in some cases comes close to original, in scale of course, the big Hunter is a case in point, although the ‘blue note’ escapes it!
Cheers Brian.:D
By: BSG-75 - 13th May 2009 at 08:49
Maybe as a “warm up” before the 2 pm start at Legends say – I think that Cosford has a relica show once or twice a year and I’ve seen similar models on display at Duxford over the past few years.
By: Moggy C - 13th May 2009 at 08:39
Not something Mrs Moggy would appreciate in the front room ๐ฎ
Would I go and see an airshow of such scale replicas? Once maybe. Without the authentic sounds the experience would be much diminished.
Moggy
By: Distiller - 13th May 2009 at 04:04
Giant Scales, Meister Scales.
In Europe & RotW only, as in the U.S. such things are limited to 50 lb.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHGdEOey2jI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4oSvyCMY_Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-w1iH4SXww
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw5OWalC4-4
plus a bunch of others.