Republic of Korean Navy decided to deploy 6 more KDX-2 and U-214

Because 1) they are getting 4 more. 2) the number of total air-defense capable ship in ROKN will be smaller than JMSDFs’.

Also, Korean Navy wanted to build 3 task force.
Most of Korean amateur specialist think it is not a good decision to build only 3 KDX-3 destroyer to against enemy. (You might able to imagine who’s going to be a biggest competitor for Korean Navy around in Northeast Asia. Additionally, North Korean Navy is not even able to get in the list 😀 )

For years the Japanse MSDF has gotten by quite well with just 4 Congo-class ships. Why should this not work for the smaller SK navy?

from JDW 16 Nov 2005

Nex1 Future shows fast attack craft systems
ROBERT KARNIOL JDW Asia-Pacific Editor
Seoul

South Korea’s Nex1 Future, formerly LG Innotek, has unveiled two systems under development for the Republic of Korea Navy’s PKX fast attack craft.
The navy plans to acquire up to 40 of these vessels to replace ageing assets. Thought to measure 56 m in length with Hanjin Heavy Industries and Construction as the lead shipyard, the PKX is due to enter service from 2007. Nex1 Future displayed models of a 3D surveillance radar and an anti-ship missile due to equip the PKX shown at October’s Seoul Air Show. The new fast attack craft should also be armed with a 76 mm main gun. Few details were released on the X-band radar system, with range and the number of targets that can be tracked simultaneously left blank on the display. It is described as providing 3D measurement to the command and fire- control system “by rapid and accurate detection of air and surface targets”.
The system can also provide raw video and processed video generation and has electronic countermeasure capabilities. A company official told JDW that the radar contract was concluded in 2003, with operational testing due in the first half of 2007. “It is now in the final phase of development,” he said. The radar may work in conjunction with the SaabTech CEROS 200 multisensor director system. The Swedish company in 2004 confirmed receipt of an order from South Korea’s MteQ, worth USD14 million, for the initial supply of CEROS 200 trackers to form part of the PKX command and fire-control system. The contract includes a technology-transfer programme for establishing production resources and test facilities in South Korea.
The as-yet unnamed medium-range anti-ship missile shown by Nex1 Future is described as having a ‘Harpoon-class’ warhead with impact/ penetration fuse. Development began in the 1990s and was undertaken by the company in conjunction with the state-owned Agency for Defence Development.
The documentation states that the missile has terminal guidance with active radar homing and a strapdown inertial navigation system with GPS support. It is an air-breathing low-altitude sea-skimming missile and can conduct evasive manoeuvres. Speed is in the ‘high subsonics’ range, which suggests about M0.85/M0.9 and maximum range is said to be more than 80 n miles.

I’m not sure that it is exactly correct but I heard from someone that he told me the prices of AEGIS system.

SPY-1D : $350,000,000
SPY-1F : $300,000,000

The numbers look like pure speculation. Does SPY-1F’s $300,000,000 include development costs and after sales support? We don’t know. Unless we know exact terms and conditions it’s almost impossible to compare prices.

BTW, we paid at least $267,447,827 for combat systems engineering, computer program development, ship integration and test support while the Norwegians spent $38,700,000 for computer program development.

The announcements below are from the US DoD’s site.

No. 644-00
October 19, 2000

CONTRACTS
NAVY

Lockheed Martin-Naval Electronics and Surveillance Systems, Moorestown, N.J., is being awarded a $38,700,000 cost-plus-fixed-fee contract for computer program development for the Norwegian new frigate program. The contract will provide for the development and delivery of a computer program that will be integrated into an AEGIS-derived SPY-1F based weapon system. The computer program will be adapted, designed and tested in accordance with a modified AEGIS combat system engineering process. This contract is for the government of Norway under the foreign military sales program. Work will be performed in Moorestown, N.J., and is expected to be completed by March 2006. Contract funds will not expire at the end of the current fiscal year. This contract was not competitively procured. The Naval Sea Systems Command, Arlington, Va., is the contracting activity (N00024-00-C-5147).

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No. 397-03
June 6, 2003

CONTRACTS
NAVY

Lockheed Martin, Naval Electronics and Surveillance Systems, Moorestown, N.J., is being awarded a $267,447,827 cost-plus-award-fee letter contract for Aegis weapon system engineering in support of the Republic of Korea foreign military sales program. The Republic of Korea competitively selected the U.S. Navy/Lockheed Martin Aegis combat system (ACS) for its KDX-III shipbuilding program. The requirements include the necessary combat systems engineering, computer program development, ship integration and test support to deliver a variant of the U.S. Navy Aegis weapon system Baseline 7 Phase I computer program and equipment to support the construction of the first Korean ship in the KDX-III class. In addition, this contract funds an integrated test team to assist the Korean shipyard in performing installation and testing of the ACS. Work will be performed in Moorestown, N.J. (62%); Falls Church, Va. (12%); Korea (10%); Norway (10%); and Washington, D.C. (1%), and is expected to be completed by December 2008. Contract funds will not expire at the end of the current fiscal year. The contract was not competitively procured. The Naval Sea Systems Command, Washington, D.C., is the contracting activity (N00024-03-C-5102).

Navy isn’t considering SPY-1F at all, according to the representatives in Marine Week 2005.

APAR or Sea APAR seems to be likewise out.

A simple system like SMART-S MkII might be being considered. Another option is the navalized system of the KM-SAM system under developement right now. Though the system isn’t deployed yet, the naval version of the radar is being developed right alongside the SAM system with the company’s research funding. The radar itself is said to be quite capable.

Actually ADD issued an RFP for a SMART-like multibeam radar study project on 7th September. If chosen for full scale development, we may see this multibeam radar on FFX frigates and additional KDX-IIs.

Northrop Grumman is proposing SPQ-9B/SYS-2(V) for FFX and an enlarged version of Nex1Future’s 3D radar for PKX is also a contender.

Cheers,
Sunho

Anyone know the radar suite for new KDX-2 batch IIRC radar suite in the current version is quite disappointing considering the potential of the vessel and its cost.

KDX-2 Wang-Gun (Batch 2, 4th ship of KD-2 series) have these radar packages.

Anti-Air – SPS-49V (C/D Band)
Anti-Sea – MW-08 (G Band)
Fire control – STIR 240 (I/K Band)
Navigate (Anti-Ship) – SPS-95K (C Band)
IFF – UPX 27.

And, no one knows about KDX-2 Batch 3’s radar ’til ROK Navy announce it.

I’m not sure that it is exactly correct but I heard from someone that he told me the prices of AEGIS system.

SPY-1D : $350,000,000
SPY-1F : $300,000,000

Few years ago, When South Korean Navy ordered SPY-1D, they ordered with Japanese and U.S Navy. I remember Korea and Japan bought each 3 of ’em. (I can’t remember how many of SPY-1D package U.S Navy bought.)
I don’t really think that KDX-2 Batch 3 uses the SPY-1F because of the prices. It is just my opinion but I think ROKN should be order SMART-S radar system.

Navy isn’t considering SPY-1F at all, according to the representatives in Marine Week 2005.

APAR or Sea APAR seems to be likewise out.

A simple system like SMART-S MkII might be being considered. Another option is the navalized system of the KM-SAM system under developement right now. Though the system isn’t deployed yet, the naval version of the radar is being developed right alongside the SAM system with the company’s research funding. The radar itself is said to be quite capable.

Anyone know the radar suite for new KDX-2 batch IIRC radar suite in the current version is quite disappointing considering the potential of the vessel and its cost.

Nothing has been determined yet. LPX is a long-term project. There is still many oppurtunity for additional orders. I never imaged we could get the 6 KDX-3 as suggested by the Navy leadership. There have been too many contradicting reports on the activity of the Navy and the government plans, but the reduction and even cancellation of the KDX programs have been discussed before, but its still here, and two ships are undergoing construction as we speak. We’ll see.

Also, Korean Navy wanted to build 3 task force.
Most of Korean amateur specialist think it is not a good decision to build only 3 KDX-3 destroyer to against enemy. (You might able to imagine who’s going to be a biggest competitor for Korean Navy around in Northeast Asia. Additionally, North Korean Navy is not even able to get in the list 😀 )

And ‘Gwangdolei’ in Yu Yong-Won’s Military World also believed 99% that Korean National Defence Committee already made decision with it.
(He told us he had got information from ‘well-informed person’ in Navy.)

Some of people thought Korean Navy have delayed to build LPX project because they already had perceived these streams in the Committee.

But as KJLost mentioned, these issues have not determinded and announced yet.

A force centered around 3 KDX-3 and 6 KDX-2 and SSKs (in addition to the frigate force) would have possibilities of forming a strong task group that can operate out of area while still not leaving coastal and EEZ zone unprotected. More may be overstretching South Korean naval resources at this point in time.

But, what how do you thinking about ignored plan that Korean Navy submitted to Korean National Defence Committee?
(They asked to build 4 more KDX-3 destroyer, 2 more LPX and KSSX-3 (3000 ton AIP submarine))

Additionally, lots of Korean amateur military specialist and fans complain about the decision to build 6 KD-2 Batch 3, 3 U-214, and 4 LST, FFX, PKX rather than 3 KDX-3, 3 LPX, 3 KSSX-3.

Nothing has been determined yet. LPX is a long-term project. There is still many oppurtunity for additional orders. I never imaged we could get the 6 KDX-3 as suggested by the Navy leadership. There have been too many contradicting reports on the activity of the Navy and the government plans, but the reduction and even cancellation of the KDX programs have been discussed before, but its still here, and two ships are undergoing construction as we speak. We’ll see.

lol, for a minute i thought that guy’s user name was ZionKorea 😛

:p Hehe~
‘Zizon’ means, ‘Mighty’ in Korean.

lol, for a minute i thought that guy’s user name was ZionKorea 😛

A force centered around 3 KDX-3 and 6 KDX-2 and SSKs (in addition to the frigate force) would have possibilities of forming a strong task group that can operate out of area while still not leaving coastal and EEZ zone unprotected. More may be overstretching South Korean naval resources at this point in time.