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Request for Help – Watercolour Sketches

Sorry – newbie question here!

Just a thought on whether anyone can help with a historic aircraft recognition issue that I have – bit of background:

I had a call a couple of weeks ago from someone local to my ATC Sqn who was clearing out their late father’s house and came across a couple of scrapbooks of 1st / 2nd World War press cuttings and photographs. Beautifully presented and would do the RAF Museum or Duxford proud, I should think. Our ATC Sqn has been given these books. In return, I was asked if I could identify 3 original watercolour pictures that this guy had done himself on parchment.

At that time, I managed to identify one of the drawings as a Fairey Flycatcher from some old books that we had at the Sqn, but was stumped on the 2 others. I wondered if the attached scans would mean anything to you guys (or whether you’d just enjoy seeing them).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/ianbishop/Aircraft_Flying/ScanofWatercolour-J8402Others.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/ianbishop/Aircraft_Flying/ScanofWatercolour-J5782.jpg

Many thanks for any help you can give.

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By: Mothminor - 24th September 2013 at 19:46

Thanks for digging up the thread! It gives those of us who never saw the drawings the first time round a chance to see them now. Must say they were very well done, good detail. Wonder where they finally ended up?

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By: paulmcmillan - 24th September 2013 at 18:18

Sorry for digging up the this Zombie thread

But today I found out that Gloster Grebe J7582 crashed into hillside in thick fog at Rottingdean, East Sussex on February 4, 1927, killing Pilot Officer SIDNEY ARTHUR VERNON EVANS, R.A.F of 56 Sqn

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By: Wessex Fan - 30th July 2007 at 19:09

Regarding the water colours, if the family intend to display the pictures, I would suggest that the pictures are framed using conservation grade materials and ‘UV’ filtered picture glass.

In my early days of collecting, I thought I could save money on the framing, sad to say I found you could not. Go to a professional framer, however beware I have come across a few companies offering a “professional framing service”, who should not be allowed to frame a postcard!

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By: CircuitBasher - 30th July 2007 at 14:09

contrailjj – apologies for delay in replying; little things like work and 3 yr old son got in way 😮 Identification of the sketches was the payback for the gift of the scrapbooks. Original sketches are now back in the hands of the family.

As for the scrapbooks, maybe I have too many morals for this game – I would preferably put them at Duxford / Hendon on a long term loan. Desperate as our ATC Sqn is for cash (and that IS desperate!), I could not countenance profiting from the kindness of such a benefactor who has entrusted such historic artefacts into my care.

When I get chance, I’ll upload the other 2 drawings (which I got the family to take a piccy of and then email, so quality’s not too brilliant) and post links.

PS How much would you offer….. :diablo: 😀

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By: contrailjj - 20th July 2007 at 03:30

Are there any plans for the sketches… any sales in mind? – I’d be happy to exchange monetary units for the Siskins. And, can we see any others?

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By: Phantom Phixer - 19th July 2007 at 22:51

No worries glad could help.

I had to double check as always get confused with the Gamecock and Grebe. Very very similer looking aircraft. The Siskin I was ok with, the type was built at my home airfield. Not a world famous aircraft though.

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By: CircuitBasher - 19th July 2007 at 09:23

Many thanks for that.

To be honest, I got a virtually simultaneous post from a friend of mine who has a book of British serials. The initial identification had been as Siskins / Gloster Gamecock. On referring to the serials, the identification was refined to Siskin IIIAs and a Gloster Grebe (from which the Gamecock was developed).

Great identification skills, however – looking through books of contemporary aircraft, I was floundering a bit as so many of the designs of the time were almost identical! 😮

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By: Lindy's Lad - 16th July 2007 at 22:42

my error on the flycatcher / siskin. I just took it as read…! Interesting that the grebe is signed in 1928 – the last year of RAF use….

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By: Phantom Phixer - 16th July 2007 at 22:33

First picture is of the Armstrong Whitworth Siskin.

I would agree with pic 2 been of the Gloster Grebe though.

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By: Lindy's Lad - 16th July 2007 at 22:19

Fairey Flycatcher, and the second (solo aircraft j-7582) could be a Gloster Grebe… Thats what my money is on without consulting the books…..

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