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Restored Yale 1st flight today Duxford

At about 17.00 following a lengthy restoration the Duxford based Yale made its first post-restoration flight. One circuit then landed.

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By: BennoT6 - 9th October 2006 at 18:20

Yes; the French Yale is most likely ex Ernie Simmons, however I don’t know for sure.
These are definitely ex ES : 3349, 3355, 3369, 3387, 3395, 3406, 3424, 3434 and 3445.
Who can add more serials ? There were 39 which survived at Ernie’s farm.

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By: Mark12 - 9th October 2006 at 17:53

Is this Yale from the famous Ernie Simmons collection in Canada?

I can still see the page in Air Pictorial(?) back in the 1950’s when this was first reported.

Hermit shoots on sight and asks questions afterwards etc.

Mark

http://www.spitcrazy.com/Simmons-2.htm

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By: BennoT6 - 9th October 2006 at 17:50

The Yale in France is there for some 10 years now; maybe even longer. It’s ex Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum storage and ex Langard collection (F). Lateron it was being restored at Caen-Carpiquet, but was reported to have moved to another location in Normandy last year.

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By: Rlangham - 9th October 2006 at 17:21

It’s like a T6/Harvard but with a smaller engine and fixed undercarriage which are the most obvious differences, they came about before the T6/Harvard as well I think. Personally I think they look cuter than the T6 but that’s just me

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By: Fouga23 - 9th October 2006 at 17:15

stupid question: What’s a Yale? Looks like a Harvard/texan to my untrained eye 🙂

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By: Stieglitz - 9th October 2006 at 17:05

Nice to spot the return of this Yale. It will shurely be an interesting addition to any show.

I like it.

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By: Consul - 9th October 2006 at 16:59

There is one more Yale in Europe; in Normandy, France, long-term restauration project. Ex RCAF 3396 (c/n 64 – 2161).

Interesting to hear this – how long has it been in France?

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By: BennoT6 - 9th October 2006 at 15:40

There is one more Yale in Europe; in Normandy, France, long-term restauration project. Ex RCAF 3396 (c/n 64 – 2161).

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By: Jan - 9th October 2006 at 13:49

The Yale and Wirraway combined to produce the Sk 14 were RCAF 3359 and RAAF A20-233 respectively. The restoration was also helped by the discovery of a large cache of NA-16 drawings found in, of all places, Japan. The Imperial Japanese Navy found the NA-16 design a sound one, and it was produced by Kyushu as the K10W1 intermediate trainer. The Allies nicknamed the K10W1 Oak. More on the K10W1 can be found here: http://www.combinedfleet.com/ijna/k10w.htm

More on the Sk 14 can be found here: http://www.avrosys.nu/aircraft/Skol/413Sk14.htm

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By: Jur - 9th October 2006 at 13:23

The previous identity of Yale G-BYNF was N55904 and Dutch owned (probably from the late 80’s until 2003). See also this picture taken in 1997 at Gilze-Rijen AFB in the Netherlands http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0966439/L/

My photos below were taken at an airshow at Texel Airport (EHTX) in 1989.

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By: QldSpitty - 9th October 2006 at 13:21

Cheers Consul for your answer.Good to see a good breed with shared lineage.

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By: Jan - 9th October 2006 at 11:59

One Yale, the former RCAF s/n 3415 was bought in 1987 by the Musee de l’Air de l’Espace. Sadly, it was destroyed by fire on 17 May 1990, along with over forty other aircraft.

Incidentally, in 1940, the Luftwaffe seized an unknown quantity of N.A.-57 Yales in France. Most entered service with the Luftwaffe, while a few were transferred to Hungary!

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By: Consul - 9th October 2006 at 11:43

Roobarb wonder if there is any similarities to our home grown Wirraways.??

Amazingly the only other Yale (so far as I know) in Europe was used as a basis for a recreation of a Swedish fixed u/c NA-16-4M (NA-38) known as the Sk 14 in SwAF service. It resides in the Swedish Air Force Museum where I photographed it this Summer. Parts of a Wirraway were obtained and also used in the composite creation to replicate the overall construction of the type. You can see the Wirraway’s fin is evident and matches the design of that component in the original Sk 14s.

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By: QldSpitty - 9th October 2006 at 09:44

Roobarb wonder if there is any similarities to our home grown Wirraways.??

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By: TEXANTOMCAT - 9th October 2006 at 09:41

Update – its not owned by a Dutchman but by an Englishman called, Van Dyke!

I’m told it will be put into a silver RAF colourscheme on completion….

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By: Consul - 5th October 2006 at 22:11

Hi Roobarb
I was standing with “Smudge” (we’d been chatting about the Lysander & Blenheim when we learnt of the Yale first flight being on). We zoomed (well ambled actually) over to the Control (adjacent to the fire crews on hand). If you or your boss want any bigger versions of my shots then PM me. First time I’ve seen a Yale aloft (even though Ive seen many in Canada & the US). The sound and pace (appeared slooooow) were so different than a Harvard no doubt due to the smaller egg, diff prop greater drag, diff wing etc etc … but a great sight …well done everyone involved.
Best wishes
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By: Roobarb - 5th October 2006 at 21:52

Now there’s a shock, someone else was at DX at that time with their camera and getting cold as well as me! Didn’t see you Tim as I was down on the tank bank end (and not a windbreak or chained up chair to be seen!) getting a different angle on the proceedings as the Boss got airborne. An interesting sight and sound in the sky. Its been about 6 1/2 years on and off and a lot of head scratching as to why it’s actually so different to the Harvard’s we’re more familiar with at ARC. Even the canopy is not a swappable item, though visually it looks identical.

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By: TEXANTOMCAT - 5th October 2006 at 17:23

LOL!

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By: Phantom Phixer - 5th October 2006 at 17:20

Is it just for fun or do I win a prize ?????????

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By: TEXANTOMCAT - 5th October 2006 at 17:19

CORRECT answer 😀

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