August 26, 2006 at 8:08 pm
Did the Royal Navy have any Corsair or Hellcat Aces during WWII? :rolleyes:
By: JoeB - 29th August 2006 at 03:41
hello wha about William “Bill” Henry Isaac Atkinson, D.S.C., M.I.D, RCNVR
Interesting; the link above though lists his score as 3 confirmed, 1 shared (not sure what that means exactly) and 1 probable, w/ 11 FAA aces altogether. Sources seem to differ. I wonder if there’s an authoritative reference for FAA pilots’ scores like Frank Olynyk’s privately published lists for US pilots.
Joe
By: Arabella-Cox - 29th August 2006 at 03:05
hello wha about William “Bill” Henry Isaac Atkinson, D.S.C., M.I.D, RCNVR
Very interrsting story………………………also 16 FAA Aces during WWII?
By: Kzee - 29th August 2006 at 01:59
hello wha about William “Bill” Henry Isaac Atkinson, D.S.C., M.I.D, RCNVR
By: JoeB - 28th August 2006 at 16:26
I was looking for Royal Navy pilots that scored 5+ victorys in either Hellcats and/or Crosairs?
Then just Sheppard.
Joe
By: Arabella-Cox - 27th August 2006 at 22:20
I was looking for Royal Navy pilots that scored 5+ victorys in either Hellcats and/or Crosairs?
By: JoeB - 27th August 2006 at 21:52
Cork would seem to have flown Corsairs but not scored any of his victories in a Corsair. Do we define “Hellcat or Corsair ace” as 5+ victories in type, some in type and 5+ total, or just 5+ total and flew one of those types in combat?
Another not mentioned in the archive link is Major R.C. Hay Royal Marines, credited with 3 JAAF fighters in the Meridian raids in January 1945 against the Pladjoe refinery in Sumatra, one of those three is half credit for a pair claimed with Sheppard, coincidentally, to add to 2 victories earlier in the war in Skua’s and Fulmars (source: Tillman, “Corsair”).
Per Tillman, Sheppard’s victories were a pair of Oscars claimed January 4 1945 in the raid on the Pangkalan Brandan refinery, a Tojo January 24 in Meridian One, half credit for a Tojo and an Oscar downed with Hay the 29th in Meridian Two, and a Judy claimed May 4th defending the task force. But Shores in “Air War Over Burma” lists the Jan 24th claim as only a probable, and the 29th’s claims a pair of Tojo’s.
Shores’ summary of total claims and losses in the Jan 45 combats: FAA claimed 9 Oscars for no loss Jan 4: two pilots of the independent 71st Chutai were killed, total plane losses unknown. January 24 FAA claimed 13 aircraft for the loss of 6 Corsairs a Hellcat and 2 Avengers, some to AA: the 87th Sentai (Tojo) lost 8 planes, the 21st (Nick) 2 pilots, 26th (Oscar) 3 pilots. January 29th the FAA claimed 9 a/c for the loss of 10 Avengers and a Firefly two of the Avengers to barrage balloons. The 87th Sentai lost 4 pilots and 33rd Sentai (Oscar) lost 2 (not incl claims and losses in the Japanese counterattack against the carriers).
Joe
By: D1566 - 27th August 2006 at 10:21
I would have thought that Dickie Cork would have been a likely contender?
Fleet Air Arm archive
By: Arabella-Cox - 26th August 2006 at 23:52
Scooter,
try here:-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hampton_Gray
There’s a brief biog and the date of award etc.
Andy
Thanks for the link…………truely a hero! 😮
By: Hurrifan - 26th August 2006 at 23:39
Havent read it in ages but would recommend ” Carrier Pilot” by Norman Hanson if you havent already come across it..Thye might not all have been Aces but heroes to a man.
By: Andy in Beds - 26th August 2006 at 22:51
Scooter,
try here:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hampton_Gray
There’s a brief biog and the date of award etc.
Andy
By: Arabella-Cox - 26th August 2006 at 22:44
I don’t know if this makes him an ‘ace’ (horrible word) or not but Lieutenant Robert Gray ( RCNVR ) of 841 Squadron, Fleet Air Arm won the Victoria Cross while flying a Corsair.
Yes, I believe I remember him? Wasn’t he killed attacking Japanese Shipping near the end of the War? Truely, the RCAF and RCN produced some of the worlds finest fighter pilots! :rolleyes: I glad they are on our side! 😀
FLY NAVY 😎
By: Andy in Beds - 26th August 2006 at 22:33
I don’t know if this makes him an ‘ace’ (horrible word) or not but Lieutenant Robert Gray ( RCNVR ) of 841 Squadron, Fleet Air Arm won the Victoria Cross while flying a Corsair.
By: Arabella-Cox - 26th August 2006 at 22:28
Sub.Lt Donald Sheppard RCNVR
1836 squadron FAA HMS Victorious.
Sound familar? Do you know how many and what type?
By: bentwingbomber - 26th August 2006 at 22:07
Sub.Lt Donald Sheppard RCNVR
1836 squadron FAA HMS Victorious.