RNHF news

Thanks for posting good news about the sea fury also, and getting free prop from Iraq must have been a plus maybe the can get the rest of it someday if there are any left?

curlyboy

Good news on the Swordfish front…

http://www.royalnavyhistoricflight.org.uk/home/

Yes it is – I have really missed seeing them at them shows, only chance you get to hear a Bristol Pegasus doing what it was made for.

I hope so as she is sadly missed when she is absent.

Yes great news. Will the Sea Hawk be back on the circuit this year?

Is the 2nd swordfish nearing completion as well? I know BAEs has been commisioned to rebuild the 3rd example. That would be some sight.

Cool, thanks for the update.

I note it does not say anything about the RNHF’s other Sea Fury – VX281.

Is she still at Weald?

Wondy

Confirmation was received today that there are a number of limited slots available for individuals to have a go in the Lynx Flight Simulator at Yeovilton during the Fly Navy Heritage Day in September.

Details on how to apply are in the Fundraising section of the website.

Does the Army Air Corps Historic Flight have the same policy like the BBMF?

What’s your question? Policy regarding what?

A number of years ago at Midland TX the CAF’s Corsair hit a turkey buzzard that left a sizeable hole in the wing….it landed safely….

M

Does the Army Air Corps Historic Flight have the same policy like the BBMF?

James

The scheme is the best estimate of LS326’s own wartime scheme, and I don’t think the RNHF has a scheme rotation policy like the BBMF…

The RNHF sadly doesn’t have the BBMF’s budget, which at the end of the day is the governing factor. LS326 will retain its 836L Flt scheme for the forseeable future (the fuselage is fine – it’s just the wings that will require refinish). VR930 is due in to the dope shop early next year, but the jury is still out on whether it will retain its current scheme or be changed.

Albert – I went over and had a look today. The cowling, which is double-skinned, is even rippled on the inside. The propeller has been removed to allow the cowling to be taken off, and temporarily refitted. She looks odd with the engine all exposed!

Also the term panzerschiffe was used by the kriegsmarine to describe most of their larger warships and i wanted to avoid this term to avoid confusion, for example when the scharnhorsts were authorised they were sometimes referred to as ‘armoured ships of 10,000 tons’ which was the maximum size of armoured ship’s germany were allowed to build under the treaty of versailles but in fact had a designed 30,000 ton displacement.

curlyboy

I have seen the terms ‘Panzerschiffe’ and ‘Battleship’ being applied to the ships of the Sharnhorst class in many many Books and publications.
For their size, weight and speed, I believe that they are as applicable as Battle Cruisers, their only letdown being the size of their main armament.
With that in mind one could even call them a very very Heavy Cruiser, but there wouldn’t be any point!

Bomberboy

Surely with all this work on LS326 being done, she must be be due for a new paint scheme, as she has been in that same scheme since 1987! Any news Lee?

Ah, but not forgetting:

The scheme is the best estimate of LS326’s own wartime scheme, and I don’t think the RNHF has a scheme rotation policy like the BBMF…

There’s plenty of other schemes, indeed, but none as appropriate for that machine.

Cheers

There is a bit on the News page of the website commenting about the return of the ‘Fish. Hopefully the rest of the wing sections for LS326 will have been delivered to Yeovilton by the end of the summer, so she may POSSIBLY be flying by the end of the year.

That’s by no means a certainty though. Keep checking back on the website for updates.

Surely with all this work on LS326 being done, she must be be due for a new paint scheme, as she has been in that same scheme since 1987! Any news Lee?

Yes, a new cowling is in the process of being fitted.

Where did the spare cowling come from? :confused:

Is there going to be a ‘kill’ marking put on for the seagull?

The reason i used the term ‘pocket battleship’ was to show where and why the website had gone wrong using the incorrect term ‘pocket battle cruiser’ where any ship of the size of the scharnhorst class were certainally not ‘pocket’ sized.

The term ‘pocket battleship’ was attached by the press in europe to the deutschland class as a slight to her cruiser size of around 3 to 5000 tons (actually around 11,000 tons) and her bigger armament of 11 inch guns (next biggest cruiser guns were around 8 inch for heavy cruisers) which meant she could easily out punch any cruiser in the world that could catch her.

Also the term panzerschiffe was used by the kriegsmarine to describe most of their larger warships and i wanted to avoid this term to avoid confusion, for example when the scharnhorsts were authorised they were sometimes referred to as ‘armoured ships of 10,000 tons’ which was the maximum size of armoured ship’s germany were allowed to build under the treaty of versailles but in fact had a designed 30,000 ton displacement.

curlyboy

“‘POCKET BATTLESHIP’ (Of the deutschland class 11,000 tons 6 x 11 guns)
Deutschland (later Lutzow)
Admiral Graf Spee
Admiral Scheer”

The German Navy never referred to them as “PB”… that was an invention of others!

The official designations are as follows:

Aircraft Carrier = Flugzeugtrager: Graf Zeppelin, B [both incomplete]
Battleship = Schlachtschiffe: Bismarck, Tirpitz
Battlecruiser = Schlachtkreuzer: Scharnhorst, Gneisenau
Armoured Ship = Panzerschiffe: Deutschland (later Lutzow), Admiral Scheer, Admiral Graf Spee
Heavy Cruiser = Schwere Kreuzer: Admiral Hipper, Blucher, Prinz Eugen, Seydlitz, Lutzow [last 2 incomplete]
Light Cruiser = Leichte Kreuzer: Emden, Konigsberg, Karlsruhe, Koln, Leipzig, Nurnberg

Raider Cruiser (Auxiliary Cruiser) = Handels-Stor-Kreuzer (Hilfskreuzer) [official designation after conversion started with “HSK”]

No problems i find web site’s are been used more and more by children for historical referance and you dont want little billy having an argument with his history teacher about scharnhorst being a ‘pocket battlecruiser’ because he read it on a royal navy affiliated site.

For future referance on german WW2 warships
BATTLESHIPS (over 39,000 tons and 8 x 15 inch guns)
Bismarck
Tirpitz
BATTLE CRUISERS (under 39,000 tons and 9 x 11 inch guns)
Scharnhorst
Gneisenau
‘POCKET BATTLESHIP’ (Of the deutschland class 11,000 tons 6 x 11 guns)
Deutschland (later Lutzow)
Admiral Graf Spee
Admiral Scheer

curlyboy

Crumb! – quite correct! :confused: Good to see that you read it anyway!! Duly corrected (I hope). Unfortunately there were always going to be bloopers when trying to produce something in a hurry in order to meet a fairly tight deadline, but admittedly this clanger slipped through the net! Always happy to put the record straight.