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Robs Lamplough's Mustang – any news?

Does anyone know how the repairs are coming along?

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By: Olivier Lacombe - 16th December 2004 at 13:21

Indeed, we can cross the T’s, but they are the same still.

NAA really knew how to make good use of “off the shelf” components!

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By: Yak 11 Fan - 16th December 2004 at 08:57

Not quite the same although they are interchangeable. The Mustang wheels for example do not have the casting for the Dzus fastners needed to attach the wheel covers. The casting is also different around the holes in the wheels. Other than that pretty much the same.

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By: Olivier Lacombe - 15th December 2004 at 20:29

Mustangs have the same wheels as a T-6, just remove the wheel covers and you’re there.

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By: HP57 - 15th December 2004 at 19:46

Cees

There’s been (IIRC) a short article in AM a few months ago showing pictures of the “Clearing of the attic” at Delft – will dig it out and see what is told there regarding the fate of those substantial components (other than what was used for the Museum’s a/c – reportedly a composite airframe based on 44-12125, the other aircraft used as Instructional airframe being 44-12149.

Actually it is quite interesting (and rarely noticed by visitors) that the Museum aircraft is resting on T-6 wheels…….

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Hi Martin,

I noticed that the photograph is an oldie. The canopy has been replaced many years ago. The previous one looked like milk. 😀

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By: MRP - 15th December 2004 at 19:32

When I examined the aircraft in 1983 at Duxford, I was clearly told by Norman Chapman, that the wing was from the Dutch Technical school.It was in great shape and very original.
It has to be remembered that in 1983 the level of re-build had not reached the level of today. I think that the original wing became part of a Mustang racer. I stand to be corrected by one of the more learned Mustang experts.

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By: Mark12 - 15th December 2004 at 19:16

Dutch P-51 wing

When Robs Lamplough made his Israeli recoveries of Spitfires and P-51 Mustangs in the late 1970’s, Harry van der Meer steered Robs toward the wing at the Delft Technical College and he acquired it. It certainly took considerable time and cost out of the restoration process.

The initial recovery of the Mustang and the Dutch wing was to Duxford.

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By: Mark12 - 15th December 2004 at 19:02

Can you be more concise Mark?

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By: shuck - 15th December 2004 at 18:04

Although this aircraft is listed as an ex-Israel airframe. But can anyone also confirm that the wings used on this aircraft originated from one of the two Mustangs held by the Dutch Technical University at Delft and acquired by Mr Lamplough in the late seventies/early eighties

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Was it the mainplane from 44-72770 that was used on Miss Helen!

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By: Mark V - 14th December 2004 at 23:40

Can you be more concise Mark?

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By: Mark12 - 14th December 2004 at 23:36

Although this aircraft is listed as an ex-Israel airframe. But can anyone also confirm that the wings used on this aircraft originated from one of the two Mustangs held by the Dutch Technical University at Delft and acquired by Mr Lamplough in the late seventies/early eighties

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Yes

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By: Swiss Mustangs - 14th December 2004 at 21:43

I was always under the impression that the ‘bulk’ of the airframe was Ray Littges original ‘Miss Helen’ :confused:

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That is correct – the original aircraft was sold to Sweden from US surplus stocks and after this type was wfu in Sweden, 44-72216 migrated to Israel where it eventually was recovered by Robs Lamplough.

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By: The Bump - 14th December 2004 at 17:03

I was always under the impression that the ‘bulk’ of the airframe was Ray Littges original ‘Miss Helen’ :confused:

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By: HP57 - 14th December 2004 at 16:58

Thanks Martin,

I hadn’t noticed about the wheels. It is in fine shape though.

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By: Swiss Mustangs - 14th December 2004 at 16:49

Cees

There’s been (IIRC) a short article in AM a few months ago showing pictures of the “Clearing of the attic” at Delft – will dig it out and see what is told there regarding the fate of those substantial components (other than what was used for the Museum’s a/c – reportedly a composite airframe based on 44-12125, the other aircraft used as Instructional airframe being 44-12149.

Actually it is quite interesting (and rarely noticed by visitors) that the Museum aircraft is resting on T-6 wheels…….

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By: HP57 - 14th December 2004 at 16:41

Although this aircraft is listed as an ex-Israel airframe. But can anyone also confirm that the wings used on this aircraft originated from one of the two Mustangs held by the Dutch Technical University at Delft and acquired by Mr Lamplough in the late seventies/early eighties

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By: FiltonFlyer - 14th December 2004 at 14:25

Does anyone know where the repairs are being done? Filton is where this Mustang usually goes for maintenance, along side Robs’s Spitfire. Although its accident was close to his farm, someone mentioned they had seen a Mustang at Filton recently, so it could have been roaded in.

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By: Swiss Mustangs - 14th December 2004 at 13:23

‘Miss Helen’ suffered an engine failure near the owners home strip after displaying at RAF Fairford in July. She was force landed, gear up, in a nearby field. Pilot was unhurt, aircraft had the usual damage associated with this kind of incident.

Which means a new prop, a new “doghouse” with inerts, skin work on lower surfaces, thorough engine ‘once-over’, etc, etc. –

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By: Ant.H - 14th December 2004 at 13:10

Thanks for the info folks,glad nobody was hurt. Here’s to a speedy recovery!

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By: Mark V - 14th December 2004 at 12:59

‘Miss Helen’ suffered an engine failure near the owners home strip after displaying at RAF Fairford in July. She was force landed, gear up, in a nearby field. Pilot was unhurt, aircraft had the usual damage associated with this kind of incident.

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By: DazDaMan - 14th December 2004 at 12:59

Forced landing in a field short of home a couple of months ago.

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