dark light

  • 1 Group

ROC posts – Nuclear role

I know this is, at best, a tenuous link with Historic Aviation, I’ve run it by the Mods though and they’re fine.

For a publication, I’m after some information which I’m hopeful someone on here will be able to help with. From research I know the bunkers were mostly sited at WW2 Obs points, that they were controlled from a larger group HQ and that they were in clusters of 3 with one post being a master post.

What I can’t seem to find at the moment is the composition of the clusters, as regards the individual posts within the cluster. Also the posts were numbered, again at this time I can’t find reference to all the post numbers, the odd one or two but not all.

I’ve researched at length so unless I’m missing something obvious, any help, advice most welcome as ever.

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

749

Send private message

By: A225HVY - 4th October 2007 at 12:29

Try these guys for a full list

http://www.subbrit.org.uk/rsg/roc/index2.shtml

http://www.subbrit.org.uk/cgi-bin/webdata_roc.pl?cgifunction=Search

A225HVY

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

4,005

Send private message

By: TEXANTOMCAT - 4th October 2007 at 12:16

Well ****** me – went to uni there and law school and all in all lived there for 7 years and never had a clue!

Thanks Paul – will be up before xmas and will check it out!

ATB

TT

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

52

Send private message

By: Paul Creasey - 4th October 2007 at 12:10

ROC HQ in York

It’s behind Shelley House, Acomb Road, Holgate, York.
Try this link for further details:

http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/leisure/daysout/display.var.1596190.0.cold_war_bunker_holgate_york.php

Regards

Paul

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

4,005

Send private message

By: TEXANTOMCAT - 4th October 2007 at 10:26

Loony Tunes – I know York well – wheres the bunker!!?

TT

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

467

Send private message

By: megalith - 4th October 2007 at 09:00

Try the 28 days later urban exploration forum, and yes I know they’re controversial on here, but they have a whole subforum on ROC posts and some of their members do seem to be very knowledgable on the subject.

Steve

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

19

Send private message

By: Loony Toons - 3rd October 2007 at 20:43

I recommend “Cold War – Building for Nuclear Confrontation 1946-1989” published by the English Heritage (ISBN 978 1 873592 81 6) & reprinted in 2007. I purchased my copy after visiting the bunker in york. It has a whole chapter on the subject.

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

783

Send private message

By: Resmoroh - 3rd October 2007 at 17:20

The Cold War nuclear “Warning & Monitoring Organisation” in the UK was, in fact, a Department of the Home Office. If my memory serves me right (and I was one of the Met advisers to that Dept) there were more than 650 posts scattered around the UK. Some have been converted to other uses (i.e. the one at Altnaharra, in Scotland, is now an Automatic Weather Station). Some, near the coast, have been taken by the sea! However, almost all of them should appear in the data held by the various Local Authorities in the their Sites & Monuments Record (SMR). The Master Copy of these is held, I think, by English Heritage at Swindon.
HTH
Resmoroh

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

52

Send private message

By: Paul Creasey - 3rd October 2007 at 17:04

ROC Posts

Hello,
Track down a book called “Attack Warning Red” by Derek Wood, Published by Macdonald and Jane’s in 1976. It’s a history of the ROC from 1925 to 1975, and the appendices give full details of Sector/Group Controls, Individual Monitoring Posts and their arrangement into clusters.
I hope this helps.
Regards
Paul

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

63

Send private message

By: Heard not seen - 3rd October 2007 at 08:33

Hello,

RAF Holpton Had a huge archive of cold war and Defence buildings. This is now looked after by Subterranea Britannica. Hope this helps you out 🙂

Must check those vulcams before work!

http://www.rafholmpton.com/

http://www.subbrit.org.uk/rsg/index.shtml

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

2,604

Send private message

By: Pete Truman - 3rd October 2007 at 08:33

I know this is, at best, a tenuous link with Historic Aviation, I’ve run it by the Mods though and they’re fine.

For a publication, I’m after some information which I’m hopeful someone on here will be able to help with. From research I know the bunkers were mostly sited at WW2 Obs points, that they were controlled from a larger group HQ and that they were in clusters of 3 with one post being a master post.

What I can’t seem to find at the moment is the composition of the clusters, as regards the individual posts within the cluster. Also the posts were numbered, again at this time I can’t find reference to all the post numbers, the odd one or two but not all.

I’ve researched at length so unless I’m missing something obvious, any help, advice most welcome as ever.

Interesting research, I didn’t know they came in threes, I’m only aware of 2 near here, between Wethersfield and Dunmow, I haven’t a clue where the third one is, any idea?
Interestingly enough, while investigating the one near Wethersfield, we were threatened by the local farmer, fortunately the chairman of the parish council intervened and saved us from the effects of shotgun blast.
What was strange was that he insisted that it was a WW2 observation post, nothing more, despite my observations on it’s Cold War use, he dismissed the idea as nonsense which made me wonder whether local councillors were sworn to secrecy over the use of these things.
The one near Dunmow was sold by the local council a couple of years ago for a few grand to a military collector. He parked a couple of APC’s over the top of it for a while, but these have since dissapeared, I don’t know what it’s used for now, cosy country residence perhaps.

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

7,125

Send private message

By: TwinOtter23 - 2nd October 2007 at 21:14

Have you asked at Newark Air Museum?

They have dioramas of both a Post and a Group Control room in their Hangar 1, both from the Cold War era.

There is also a further Cold War connection with their Shackleton participating in FALLEX sorties during the early 1960s.

www.newarkairmuseum.org

Sign in to post a reply