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Hi all (again)

Thank you for replies to my last thread, just another quick one that peeps may have thoughts on? I have an option to buy 900x50ft strip of grass and wondered what light aeroplanes if any could operate out of it:confused: or is it not long enough and stuck to microlights??? Please do not worry about the legal beagle stuff (yet :D). I also understand its talent related but just after an overview from fresh eyes of weird and wonderful machines that could handle that short run safely.

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By: Dave Wilson - 25th April 2012 at 00:22

It’s OK geting them in, it’s geting them out you have to think about! 900′ is doable if you wait for the wind etc but getting out is another question. A Pawnee would manage it with a ten knot headwind, half fuel and standard day (plus a not knackered donk and a pilot who knew what he was doing).

Plus you have to think about what if you don’t have a headwind and it’s 30C.

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By: dh82jon - 24th April 2012 at 23:52

Erm,
Well its very very clear of anything to hit infact its sparse even for fenland, It does have an arrester ditch one end though!! And sounds like I maybe need a bit longer as I have a tigermoth, traumahawk to try squeeze out of it (no ppl yet mind). I understand book figures and charts etc just wondering what people do get away with! Does anyone know what a pawnee is like on the run, as I have a fancy for one I have been offered!:D
I also understand I’m in the low fuel and solo to another airfield cat, would just be handy to keep the planes at home when not in use through winter etc

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By: Dave Wilson - 24th April 2012 at 20:09

Just had a look at our POH for the PA28-161 Warrior II which is about as bog standard a spamcan/trainer as you can get. With CAA safety factors dialled in the sea level, max weight, 25C landing figures over a 50′ obstacle on short, flat, dry grass are 1710 ft. The take off figure over a 50′ obstacle is a staggering 3730 ft.

I would say with some certainty that Moggy is right, microlights only. Or as John says, some of the LAA types. Even then I think I’d be wary. Friend of mine runs a Piper Cub and his limit is 400 metre strip.

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By: John Green - 24th April 2012 at 20:00

Group A light aircraft ?

Zenair 701 & 750 & 801. Rans SE6. Eurostar possibly. Best all rounder next to the 701 tho’ a VLA – Ikarus C42.

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By: Moggy C - 24th April 2012 at 19:03

Wot Dave says.

I’d be very wary of operating any of the everyday GA types out of a strip that short.

That really is microlight territory in my opinion.

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By: Dave Wilson - 24th April 2012 at 17:56

By light, how light? You have about 270m or so of grass, you would get a 152 down with a skillful pilot but taking off on a hot, nil wind day two up would be another matter. Depends what the approaches are like either end as well, does it have trees, pylons etc?

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