ROLLS-ROYCE data plate emblem…

Pete, do you know after you said about the Peregrine I I took another close look… 🙂 I think you were right all along, so I will ammend that straight away, thanks Pete… 😉

I’ll give R-R Derby a bell next week and see if they still have the original artwork for their OLP’s, if not, I’ll see if I can get an email or postal address for Dr Alfred Price and ask him if he has the Pilots Notes photo that was used in his 2006 artical in the “Aeroplane”

Unless Tangmere1940 can ask him for me?

Thanks again for your help… 😉

Stuart

Personally, I think you have done very well to get this far with such a poor original!
It almost looks like the word “Peregrine” is a legend plate stuck on to the brass one , although I can`t see why they would have done that. If you look closely, there could be a “I” there for Mark I, not sure.

Pete

Pete

One thing to add is the mark number of the engine, (Peregrine I)I doubt it would have simply said “Peregrine”

I can only go by what I can make out from the original plate and as you can see there’s no Mk number present. Whats really annoying though is you can just make-out something above the “Peregrine” ?

Would the plate from a Hawker biplane with the Kestrel not be that design? What made you wonder if the plate for a twin would be different?

As regards to checking out earlier designs the big problem is getting hold of them, I think I will contact R-R Derby again and this time not ask for a “Engine Plate” but as Tangmere said an “Operation Limitation Plate” And see what answer I get… Ha!
Why did I think a plate for a twin would be different, ignorance mate, ignorance… 😉

Shame there’s not a book with them all in? Unless you know otherwise?

Of course if I could track down the original Pilots Notes photo’s for the Whirly it would be plain sailing, can I say that on an Aviation Forum?

Thanks to Rocketeer I’ve been in contact with RAF Handling Squadron, unfortunately they don’t have them either, but they are scanning me an original Pilot’s Note’s image to see if they it is clearer than the reprints I already have… Nice people.

Bloody Whirlwind… Ha!

Thanks Pete, I’ll keep you posted…

Got it now!

No, the only cockpit plate I have is from the 1940 Fulmar and that is the same as your donor.
One thing to add is the mark number of the engine, (Peregrine I)I doubt it would have simply said “Peregrine”
Would the plate from a Hawker biplane with the Kestrel not be that design? What made you wonder if the plate for a twin would be different?

Date-wise it should be the same plate as that used on the first Merlin installations. A good bet for a twin therefore would be Wellington or Whitley. Beaufighter II is slightly later

Pete

Here’s what i’ve got, first image is what I based the reproduction on, second image matches the first all the way, until we get down to the last couple of lines…

Pete, see thats me not using the correct terminology… 😮 The plate is in the cockpit. Do you have any that matches the first image Pete, and if you do could I have a scan/photo of it please… 😉

Tangmere, “Op Lims plate” Ah thats what their called… 😉 See, on the original Peregrine plate, the “OIL TEMPERATURE FOR TAKE OFF” info is on the 6th line from the bottom, so your plate layout is a no-match… 🙁

Stuart

Finished artical, well until I can find out what was written on the bottom two lines… 🙁

Don’t know where I can find out?

The Peregrine data figures are taken from the Pilots Notes, running on 87 octane. The one’s in the original photo (Prototype)from which our plate is based are un-discernable, so used the official written figures…

Still not happy with the last couple of lines, but as yet have not found anything that we can use to verify the correct layout, data…?

Any Whoo, let me know what you think…

Original

The Merlin Op Lims plate has the following on the bottom line(s)

OIL TEMPERATURE FOR TAKE OFF

oC MINIMUM []

I only have a Merlin XII to hand but think the Merlin II and III were similar. Suspect the Peregrine might have been similar too.

Anyone got a good photo of a Merlin Engined Beaufighter Engine Plate?

Sorry, I`ve been away, just got back.
The date of the plate I scanned that from is March 1941, and it IS a Beaufighter IIF plate, as it happens!
I also have a plate from a 1940 Merlin VIII which has the same image.
Is it the engine plate or the cockpit plate you are referring to?

Pete

Finished artical, well until I can find out what was written on the bottom two lines… 🙁

Don’t know where I can find out?

The Peregrine data figures are taken from the Pilots Notes, running on 87 octane. The one’s in the original photo (Prototype)from which our plate is based are un-discernable, so used the official written figures…

Still not happy with the last couple of lines, but as yet have not found anything that we can use to verify the correct layout, data…?

Any Whoo, let me know what you think…

Original

Here’s a little update, although I’m not convinced the bottom couple of lines are correct, I suspect the plates were different for the twins… 🙁

Anyone got a good photo of a Merlin Engined Beaufighter Engine Plate?

Thanks Pete for the scan, looks the business…

Pete, thank you, thats just what we want…;)

Have you got any dates for that type?

Stuart.

Stuart

It could be this one.
If you need a sharper copy then the Rolls-Royce Heritage Trust may have the artwork.

Pete