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ROYAL Canadian Air Force

Here in Canada, our Defense Minister is about to announce the restoration on individual names to our Military Branches.
It should be official within the next 24 hrs
Back in 1968, the Liberal Gov. decided to merge all branches and call it the Canadian Armed Forces. While I am proud of our Military people, I for one have never liked the merge.
We now once again have the Royal Canadian Air Force, Royal Canadian Navy and the Canadian Army.
These are proud names in our military heritage and it’s good to see them back.
“Per ardua ad astra”

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By: J Boyle - 17th August 2011 at 00:43

Now let’s put the Halifax back in RCAF service again too.
Cees

Did the RCAF operate the Halifax…or was it Canadian crews flying RAF-owned aircraft?

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By: CeBro - 16th August 2011 at 19:16

Now let’s put the Halifax back in RCAF service again too.
Would Bombardier be prepared to produce a first batch of say errr onehundred Mk VI’s for starters?
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By: AVI - 16th August 2011 at 13:58

So will they be going back to the traditional RAF/RCAF ranks?

The Air Force never lost their rank insignia, the system of a combination of stripes on the cuffs of the sleeves so there’s nothing to change there. They may be quite happy with the system of Army rank titles as well. The old titles of Squadron Leader, Wing Commander, etc., are awkward to translate into real world rank titles, especially for us Army guys, never mind the Americans whom we work so closely with, so the new RCAF may very well retain the Army rank titles. How do we comprehend a Squadron Leader who has no squadron to lead?

Now, being an old Canadian Army guy myself, I’d be more than happy to see those weird Navy/Air Force officer rank stripes disappear. Would we go back to a system of pips and crowns? Who knows? I suppose the General Officers, from one to three stars (no four stars at present), are happy with their easy-for-all-to-identify shoulder board rank insignia of one to four Maple Leafs, but would we go back to a system of pips and crowns?
Maybe … but let’s hope we don’t return to the ultra-confusing combination of pips, crowns, and God knows what else that made up the old system of General Officer rank insignia that was inherited from the British.

Pips & Crowns for 2LT to Field Officers? How do we differentiate from all the Warrants who presently wear a crown on epaulets?

The Navy’s fine. They already have their own rank insignia and titles, and I suppose their Flag Officers are content with the one to four Maple Leaf system …

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By: AutoStick - 16th August 2011 at 12:33

The Army is Parliamentarian ( Oliver Cromwell ) rather than formed / funded by Royal Decree !!!

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By: Stewart24 - 16th August 2011 at 12:27

So will they be going back to the traditional RAF/RCAF ranks?

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By: pagen01 - 16th August 2011 at 10:08

Genuine question, what difference does it actually make?

Whenever I have had the good fortune to have seen the CAF at work (including a CP-140 ride) they always seem an efficient and well disciplined armed forces in the way that they work and so on.
Lightning strikes, retro schemes, etc all existed in CAF times, red arctic markings are rare in this day and age with most forces, and are all superficial anyway in the greater scheme of things.

I must admit I’m surprised by the move and was half expecting that the British armed forces would probably follow and end up as a combined force in years to come.

A couple of CAF CP-140s of 405 & 415 Sqns celebrating their past

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a82/pagen/st%20mawgan%20aircraft/sCP-140140105.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a82/pagen/st%20mawgan%20aircraft/sCP-140140114.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a82/pagen/st%20mawgan%20aircraft/sCP-140tail.jpg

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By: Flanker_man - 16th August 2011 at 09:44

There are the royal air force, the royal navy and the army. How come the army is not “royal”?

I don’t know the ‘proper’ answer – its probably historic – but if the Canadian Army is the same as the British Army, then the individual Regiments and Corps within the Army have the ‘Royal’ title… as in…

Royal Artillery
Royal Tank Regiment
Royal Hussars
Royal Regiment of Wales

etc etc…

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By: wk165 - 16th August 2011 at 08:17

Quick.
Someone tell the Australian Govt it doesn’t work before they stuff up our defence forces.

Oops. Too late.

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By: MP703 - 16th August 2011 at 06:02

There are the royal air force, the royal navy and the army. How come the army is not “royal”?

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By: J Boyle - 16th August 2011 at 04:13

Good news. And welcome to those old enough to have memories of the RCAF.

I agree with Peter, lets have some lightning bolts and red arctic markings.

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By: Peter - 16th August 2011 at 02:14

A long time coming… bring on the retro paint schemes!

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By: PanzerJohn - 15th August 2011 at 23:55

Blimey, Prince William and his new missus must have impressed.

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