Royal Mail privatised

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Sacrifice a virgin at Sunrise.*

Forgot to mention that quite a few of the other postal services use Royal Mail to deliver their post. QED when the price of a stamp goes up for one, then it goes up for all.

*Alternatively Sunset, although if you cannot locate a virgin when needed, open the reply with quote in a new tab for all the relevant posts then copy and paste into one reply box. It might be rocket science, but since I am not a rocket scientist I am not qualified to judge.

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Oh well.Regarding Rail privatisation.
Here’s how it has evolved in real practical terms -from the inside 🙂
Pre privatisation – 1 depot employed the staff it needed to run that particular area,everyone signed all the traction ,all the routes and came under the same management and had the same terms and conditions.

Now ,the 1 depot has been split into 3 separate companies, 3 x different types of traction of which people only “sign ” a third of.Non of the traction is compatible with each other,so if company A’s train breaks down company B and C ‘s trains are stuck behind.Drivers don’t sign each others traction either.
You now have 3 times the managers [one for each company] .Companies are competing against each other sometimes over the same routes ,what a waste of resources.
Some companies will stop at a station the others wont so there again choice is restricted if you want to travel from that small station.
Notwork rail [which are their own entity ] are busy flinging out paperwork and apportioning blame to the Train Operating Companies who in turn blame Notwork Rail or the other companies so there are paper chains flying around everywhere,backside clearing.
People are so worried about being blamed if a decision is made that when a decision is needed ,well surprise surprise the final one is passed around like a hot potato and becomes a case of damage limitation.
We now have ,lawyers,accountants,middle managers running the service -the actual people [the railwaymen] who had pride in their jobs have been let go .

Yeah Privatisation works.

Regarding the amount of miles being travelled by passengers- i guess that may be down to location and type of passenger and even the time and ticket availability/costs.
Some commuters may have no viable competition if travelling in the rush hour into a city centre with no parking.

Now,lets look at the other utility companies – – how much of them are now contracted out.Next time you call out someone from what used to be a public utility have a chat with them and see what things are REALLY like behind the “company ” slogans .

Sorry but i haven’t seen any improvements ,just the fattening of the top dogs money and the guy on ground working harder,longer for less because of “targets” and profits for the shareholders cause jobs to be done and bodges seem quite normal now.

I can’t believe anyone actually believes the utilities were well run when state owned. They were a disaster!

At least when they were a monopoly we weren’t being encouraged to keep shifting from one fleecing provider to another.
Seriously, when they were publicly owned at least they weren’t trying to make as much money as possible to keep their shareholders happy, like all the rest.

I think evidence around the world shows that governments never manage businesses capably. And clearly the PO workers do not share the anti-diluvian attitude of their union leaders as over 90% of them have opted in to the share offer joining about 700,000 others.

Surely it’s the management put in by the governments that succeeds or fails: that way the government can point out it’s the managers fault when something goes wrong or gloat that it was they who had the foresight to put them in place for the (very) occasional success. And most managers went from public to privatised ownership with their business, failure or not, anyway.
Which of the former public companies do you count as being an overwhelming success anyway?
Workers generally do take the carrot since it can provide them with extra money; I have no idea if this was provided to them free of charge or whether they got them at a discount, but a place I use to work at offered its workers free shares at an issue, which were to be held by the company for three years before being released. Obviously we then had an interest in the company’s wellbeing, rather than just working for it, with the chance of a bonus if we disposed of the shares of a rising business after three years.

Really? I thought rail passenger miles had been increasing year on year for several years, now…….

From what level is it increasing?
Do you feel better sitting on a train that is stuck between stations since one has broken down ahead (or maybe yours has broken down), telling yourself that the service is much better than it used to be?
My understanding is that passenger levels dropped to a point that was apparently regarded as alarming that they could do nothing but go up if an attempt was made to improve the service. Just because things sound like they have gotten better does not mean that all is good and proper now.

haha 🙂 Wait until they put a ridiculous price on it. Pay or we don’t deliver. After all the royal mail works for share holders now 😉

So if a stupid price is put on it then the service will not be used by all except the most needy and for bills – and you know what you can do with them!!! The price will need to be regarded as ‘competitive’ otherwise the shareholders will not get much return and the management will have some seriously hard questions to answer.
Someone will probably have put an answer to this already though.

Privatisation will mean that the posties will find that their rounds will get bigger and/or need to be done quicker. The post bus service will disappear (in areas where it hasn’t already) or the charge will become unsustainable for users – despite the fact that a vehicle will need to run on that route anyway. We will get even more advertising junk mail through our letterboxes as the company sells itself out to make money. Blah blah blah. 😡

Tony, so do I, at least it gives me a chance to “Have a go” at the establishment, that’s what they rely on, everyone just sitting back and taking it. I have already sent my local M.P. my thoughts and opinion on their lack of help, which in my opinion, is what they are employed to do. 😡
Jim.
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Good for you Jim, hope you get some results for him.

Though remember leaving a voice message for them, isn’t the same as posting your teeth through their letterbox :dev2:

😮

Jim.
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Young Ash, take note!!
Jim.
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I certainly am taking note, Jim.

Paul, Unfortunately our CAB office is booked up fully for weeks at the moment, But I will try Age concerne, it realy pees me off, as when you get to a certain age, no one wants to know you, unless it’s Inland Revenue, and the likes.
Jim.
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Age Concern or the CAB will help with these forms and probably find other things he can claim as well.

Moggy, You have hit the nail dead bang on the head, “Too proud”, this applies to many pensioners, who are too proud to claim many benefits they may be entitled to. Having quite recently visited an old friend who is in his 80s, I found he had reams of “Claim Forms” regarding the money he could probably claim, but to a man of his age, it was just too confusing. I phoned up Social Services on my friends behalf, and asked if they could send anyone round, to see if “The system” could help him fathom all the paperwork out, to see if he was likely be able to submit a claim, Their reply was, “He has the Forms, but we havn’t the time or anyone to send out to help”.

I wonder if he was from the E.U. it would have been a different story……Somewhere along the line, we have lost the plot, when we can’t look after our own. Sad, very sad indeed.
Jim.
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One would have thought so, but she was not at all self-pitying and I would guess possibly too proud.

Moggy

Surely she can get help?

In the dreary slog around the car dealerships of middle England yesterday I heard the Jeremy Vine show and a woman , not a pensioner, working in local government all but reduced me to tears with her plight.

Her meal for the day?

A slice of bread and ‘value’ spread with salt & pepper.

Moggy

Thanks, Linc – I never had one…!:(

I feel very sorry for those elderly folks who never had a Pension Scheme, and who have to live on the State Pension. As so many state, now that Gas and Leccy prices have been jacked up yet again, it’s a case of “Eat or heat”, and that’s not even mentioning the cost of living in general.

Jim.
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Linc – don’t misunderstand. I don’t doubt a word of it but it stemmed from your comment about Moggy’s pension and where and how the funds are invested. That’s why you and Moggy and thousands of others have a pension now thanks to private pension investments in corporations like Royal Mail has just become.

Chas.That may well be, but, when I started to pay, and with 3 kids, way back in the 60s, 11.5% out of your wages was a hell of a lot.People forget, that POlice Pay was very bad, so bad that many were leaving in droves. I had 2 jobs, just to survive. It wasn,t until, (I THINK?) it was a Lord Edmondson, did a most thorough investigation, that we received a decent pay rise, however, we did for many, many years lag behind what Teachers were getting. Ask any ole Copper from that era.
I more than earned my Pension, and even today over 20yrs since I retired, it’s not that brilliant.
Young Ash, take note!!
Jim.
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Tony, I didn’t realise you were that well off, now, about that Tenner I loaned you……………………..

Jim.
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I only invest in safe bets :stupid:

So you do – invested like Moggy’s and many thousands of others in a pension fund.

Only by paying 11.5% of my wages in for 30yrs!!!.
Jim.
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