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RuAF News and development Thread part 15

We reached 70 pages and we entered a new year, time for a fresh start.

Old thread here: http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?133324-RuAF-News-and-development-Thread-part-14

Is the latest VVS contract for Su-35S confirmed?

Perhaps a little status of current units delivered and on contract is due.

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By: haavarla - 24th July 2020 at 09:25

Looks like a new Su-35S deal is happening. The Egyptian Deal was signed last year apparently.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/35055/here-are-the-first-photos-of-egypts-new-su-35-super-flankers

This deal seems to have been worked out in the shaddows, no doubt due to the US Sanctions. Its not quite clear for how many, 16,  24, 32??

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By: djcross - 28th March 2020 at 02:43

It appears that the missile was launched from a “trapeze” mounted rail which was extended from the shoulder bay.

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By: haavarla - 27th March 2020 at 15:27

A “New” promo of the Sukhoi 57. First time i’ve seen it. I liked it. Was that missile launced from an external rail?

https://youtu.be/eqgrv2kHQHA

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By: Stratofreighter - 3rd December 2019 at 18:03

…kicking up this thread…

https://www.defenseworld.net/news/25925

Flight Tests of Modernised Tu-160M Strategic Bomber to Begin

11:57 AM, November 28, 2019

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By: Highwings - 4th November 2019 at 00:58

stealthflanker said

I think it’s because the team’s poor job in building the model. Thus one cant really judge the depth of the radar based on that full scale mockup. Plus The mockup have no Inflight refuelling probe apparently. Thus the team building it might think the radar can go deeper without counting any possible space for the probe’s hydraulics or other related machineries or treatment for Radome RCS.

 

That’s just a bunch of assumptions on your part. You are looking at these pictures and assuming you know more about the Mig 35 than the people who were tasked with readying this jet for the show. 

 

 

 

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By: haavarla - 1st November 2019 at 19:21

Yo B1tches, i’m back with another eyepopping vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoAtd49wYlg&t=214s

And look at those Verticals Stabz wobble at 04:20, the stress and forces is very present:

Video by KHMedia as usual.

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By: Privateer454 - 14th October 2019 at 17:33

Great vid. I love watching all the control surface movement – it is flying art.

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By: LMFS - 13th October 2019 at 14:00

Nice video, that should be close to 90 deg/s, and still the F-35 fandom is loosing their s… over the so called “Dojo drift” with some 45 deg/s, at high speed of course, to get the control surfaces working in absence of TVC…

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By: haavarla - 12th October 2019 at 19:37

Still have to search for the last page on each thread i see.. Thought they would have fixed it by now?

Anyway, i have just witness the craziest 180 Non-ballistic turn EVAH!
From of KHMedia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vTUkLrxPfw

It starts around 02:10
Enjoy!

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By: Spinx - 8th October 2019 at 06:37

What improvements the Mig-45 have is on Sustainability(mission range), and BVR capability.
Improved Attack capability.
You cannot expect the Mig-35 to handle like the Mig-29A when its gross empty weight is x tons heavier.

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By: graywolf27 - 4th October 2019 at 13:13

Has MiG said anything about improvements on handling form the previous mig-29 models. The initial mig-29 can pull some crazy high pitch rates and high alpha when going above the limiter. Makes me feel that a new fly by wire system could had taken the mig-35 and KUB to the next level, but most displays shown already look very thame.

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By: stealthflanker - 29th September 2019 at 18:55

I’d somehow missed this unit until now. But I don’t think the radar is crammed inside to give a false impression, the unit as such is compact – both the front and the rear end compared to the earlier displayed model. You can guesstimate the depth of this radar unit from the side view of radome I posted earlier.

I think it’s because the team’s poor job in building the model. Thus one cant really judge the depth of the radar based on that full scale mockup. Plus The mockup have no Inflight refuelling probe apparently. Thus the team building it might think the radar can go deeper without counting any possible space for the probe’s hydraulics or other related machineries or treatment for Radome RCS.

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By: JangBoGo - 29th September 2019 at 12:07

Is there any good pictures available for the MiG-35 cockpit? The HUD and large panel MFD looks unified with the Su-57 which was a good move and which they should have done much much earlier.

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By: JangBoGo - 29th September 2019 at 11:59

The same Radar appears to have been shown back in 2014 designated as FGA-29.

and regarding the quality of the mockup.. i think they also crammed the radar way too deep. giving false impression of compactness. In my view That will leave no space for any edge treatment for radome signature reduction or lobe shaping. The fliying demonstrator of MiG-35 is more likely the “real” way on how the radar supposed to be mounted (i.e antenna part is in radome).

This link lists out all those Zhuk series radar
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Zhuk_(radar)
http://bastion-karpenko.ru/guk-a/

Also came across this KERT pdf from 2014 which shows the radar, haven’t read it full…
https://www.niip.ru/upload/iblock/8d…70be505daa.pdf

I’d somehow missed this unit until now. But I don’t think the radar is crammed inside to give a false impression, the unit as such is compact – both the front and the rear end compared to the earlier displayed model. You can guesstimate the depth of this radar unit from the side view of radome I posted earlier.

I’m not able to get a proper side profile pic or side by side image of the two units, but hope you can make out the difference in the antenna size and the overall size.

The older unit which was showcased in 2008 on a MiG-35 demo

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By: stealthflanker - 29th September 2019 at 08:13

It is a full scale mockup. But they displayed it poorly, particularly the front fuselage/radome. They copied the same stuff that was on the 2008 MiG-35 demo aircraft.

But that doesn’t hide the fact regarding the new Zhuk AESA model displayed. The new version is much more compact and its a larger unit with around 1017T/R modules. Last year it was mentioned the trails were to start in early 2019, so hopefully something might have progressed.

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The same Radar appears to have been shown back in 2014 designated as FGA-29.

and regarding the quality of the mockup.. i think they also crammed the radar way too deep. giving false impression of compactness. In my view That will leave no space for any edge treatment for radome signature reduction or lobe shaping. The fliying demonstrator of MiG-35 is more likely the “real” way on how the radar supposed to be mounted (i.e antenna part is in radome).


Assuming it use same technology from Zhuk-AE and perhaps same modes (but with increased module count instead) It will have about 194-221 Km range against 3 sqm target RCS. About 1.5 times of improvement factor. This basically puts it in league with current generation of modern “medium weight” fighter like Super Hornets and Rafale and this allows use of possibly long range Ramjet missile but i wonder if Russian have any interest left on RVV-AE-PD.

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By: JangBoGo - 28th September 2019 at 16:24

Is the one recently displayed even a real flying airframe ?

It is a full scale mockup. But they displayed it poorly, particularly the front fuselage/radome. They copied the same stuff that was on the 2008 MiG-35 demo aircraft.

But that doesn’t hide the fact regarding the new Zhuk AESA model displayed. The new version is much more compact and its a larger unit with around 1017T/R modules. Last year it was mentioned the trails were to start in early 2019, so hopefully something might have progressed.

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By: QuadroFX - 27th September 2019 at 20:20

MoD:

“Okhotnik” performed a flight in fully autonomous mode.

https://twitter.com/mod_russia

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By: haavarla - 27th September 2019 at 19:20

S-70 and Su-57: pair flight

I was just about to post this.. and i just have to say, This vid just made my whole damn week blessed. I mean, even for the Nay sayers in here, give credit where credit is due!
Absolutly Fab!

Congratulation Russia

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By: panzerfeist1 - 27th September 2019 at 15:39

That is pretty interesting thanks for that update Austin. https://www.raytheon.com/sites/default/files/news/rtnwcm/groups/public/documents/content/yuse_jed_2015_interview.pdf Pg.26 and Pg.40 most receivers go up to 18ghz. If GaN AESA is applied than there is a possibility that an aircraft can receive and jam VHF and UHF waves. But so far nothing on jamming RF waves higher than 18ghz unless the country has photonic radar receivers.

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By: Austin - 27th September 2019 at 12:11

Looking at the range figures RCS of 0.003 sq. m at a distance of over 2 km for Ka band seekers.

I think they have opted for higher frequency MMW seeker of 40 GHz Ka band and focused on Anti-Jamming/Burn through capability , Target Imaging with Ka band and all weather capability over Longer range for seeker.

Using K or Ku band as in R-77 might have its limitations in an era where AC carry DRFM jammers and stand off jamming available , Ka band should also be good against LO Target. and using AESA can provide faster Scan Rates and lower side lobes with perhaps lower power needed.

This would also mean R-77M would depend on AC main radar for LR tracking , Guidance and MC updates.

The RVV-BD carries dual seeker of X/Ku Band , R-77 etc carries Ku band seeker and the one for R-77M is a new AESA seeker with Ka Band

https://previews.123rf.com/images/id1974/id19741406/id1974140600376/29555875-moscow-russia-aug-19-radar-seekers-at-the-international-aviation-and-space-salon-maks-aug-19-2011-at.jpg

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