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Apart form Aviation archeaology, my interests also extend to WW1 Trench Art, which I have collected for some 25 years – long before it became fashionable! :rolleyes: Recently I have been amazed at some of the horrendously contrived cr*p appearing on eBay and even more amazed by the incredible prices apparently payed for such clearly recently cobbled together rubbish – though I do suspect certain sellers are using secondary accounts to run up prices – & no I wouldnt dare suggest it was anyone on here!!!! 😮

As if the recent so called RFC Grenade moneybox monstrosity wasnt bad enough! (£300 + I believe – could’nt bear to watch the end of the auction 🙁 ). Just take a look at this latest offering:

ww2 raf trench art 1940 spitfire brass plane flak shell

I will watch the counter with interest – those new to collecting please look and learn, but don’t be tempted to bid! “Dry loft stored” what! – CR*P of the 1st order – DEFINITELY

Rant over! :dev2:

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By: Andy Mac - 3rd October 2006 at 13:36

Someone will buy it and be very happy 🙂

Each to his/her/their own :diablo:

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By: MarkG - 3rd October 2006 at 13:06

Pssst….wanna buy a Sopwith Camel ejector seat, Mark? Andy Saunders

Oooh yes please, and I’ll pay you with a wad of 9-bob notes!

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By: Arabella-Cox - 3rd October 2006 at 11:52

Pssst….wanna buy a Sopwith Camel ejector seat, Mark? Andy Saunders

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By: MarkG - 3rd October 2006 at 11:02

Yeah- I seen a “Genuine” Spitfire Machmeter offered on Ebay not so long ago!-seems that if it fits on an old plane it fits on a spit!-The Machmeter in question was made 15 years after the last Spit was manufactured-and the vendor swore blind that a subsonic piston engined fighter was capable of over Mach 1!-Told him to go ask Col Chuck Yeagher about that one.

I reckon I can beat that – a while ago I saw a cabin altimeter for…a Swordfish!!!
So that’s an instrument used to indicate the level of cockpit pressurisation in an open-cockpit aeroplane! Priceless!

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By: klingon - 3rd October 2006 at 04:01

Yeah- I seen a “Genuine” Spitfire Machmeter offered on Ebay not so long ago!-seems that if it fits on an old plane it fits on a spit!-The Machmeter in question was made 15 years after the last Spit was manufactured-and the vendor swore blind that a subsonic piston engined fighter was capable of over Mach 1!-Told him to go ask Col Chuck Yeagher about that one.

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By: Malcolm McKay - 3rd October 2006 at 02:42

Brings big bucks these days so there is plenty of temptation to produce fakes and it is relatively easy given the nature of the originals. A real pity that but the unscrupulous are always with us.

A couple of months ago a friend of mine picked up a trench art Etrich Taube made out of a cartridge case. Whoever had made it did a lovely job.

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By: croweater - 3rd October 2006 at 01:01

Interesting story about Ebay in Oz here:
http://www.warbirdz.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=692

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By: N.Wotherspoon - 2nd October 2006 at 20:40

Beats me how they had so much time to make trench art, maybe if they had banned the making of it, the wars may have ended sooner ! The trenches must have been filled with little workshops churning out souveneirs.

I partly recall a quote from somwhere that Trench Warfare was 99% boredom % 1% sheer terror (may have misrecalled the actual %s). But whatever the case it certainly does seem that many soldiers had time to pass making such items – & very good most of them were at it too – the workmanship on most genuine items is remarkable – The french even had national competitions run by the country’s newspapers! You don’t see crude dribbles of solder all over the place and horrible deep file marks (let alone the angle-grinder marks on some fake pieces!).

Yes Bill the pathetic cast brass plane is a dead giveaway – its all of 2 weeks old, but that aside the clumsy proportions of the piece and appallingly crude workmanship scream “I was knocked together yesterday!” No self-respecting erk. let alone pilot would have ever put his name or reputation to this!

Many of the fake pieces seem to have an aviation theme which is why I thought this forum was the place to air this issue – I have tried making eB*y aware, but they are simply not interested 🙁

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By: Junk Collector - 2nd October 2006 at 19:24

Beats me how they had so much time to make trench art, maybe if they had banned the making of it, the wars may have ended sooner ! The trenches must have been filled with little workshops churning out souveneirs.

Sad to say the words contrived, rubbish and ebay also extend to Aviation relics, and parts, amazing how many things are labelled Spitfire when they clearly are not, as for the histories of items I have seen several items on there with clearly fake histories.

Caveat Emptor – Buyer Beware

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By: Scramble Bill - 2nd October 2006 at 19:12

I totally agree about some of the stuff on ebay…..you have to be SO CAREFUL….I dont collect ‘trench art’ and if you hadn’t said it was junk i wouldn’t have known, apart from the dodgy looking aircraft which looks recent manufacture. I do collect RAF ww11 period items and even with my limited knowledge i have seen some awful stuff….some obviously fake, some original but made to look ww11 etc…..

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By: FMK.6JOHN - 2nd October 2006 at 19:10

Think he means ‘stored in a dry loft’ but still which ever way you slice it, it spells out lump of junk to me.

I am no expert on trench art but that sure as hell is not!!!!!!.

John.

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