February 19, 2007 at 8:29 pm
Its many years since I worked in a dispatch office and only ever got involved in 757’s & 737’s but am gonna ask a question that may seem obvious to many but please forgive my memory.
Regarding EGNM/LBA – if a 767 departs 14 fully laden (obviously weather and other factors do have a bearing on this) with fuel,PAX and freight what runway length would be required to get the aircraft to an airport somewhere close to its maximum operating distance.
Off the top of my head I cant remember the runway lengths at LBA so i cant quote figures.
I know the THOM 767’s dont normally go LBA-BGI direct and I cant honestly remember when 747’s of Wardair came in if they went direct or not, but i seem to recall they were co-loaded via EGBB/BHX so they were probably fully fuelled there.
If someone can add anything to this I would appreciate it – just forgive my ignorance as I never had this prob when I was at Manchester in the early 90’s
MTIA
Mark
By: markwinterb - 20th February 2007 at 18:12
Question asked, question answered
Thank you very much guys
Mark
By: Stampe - 20th February 2007 at 12:23
LBA Standard day qnh 1013 15deg c. wind calm optimum flap packs off B763 with C2 engines full power.
RW14 Mtow 166.2 wet or 169.0 dry
RW32Mtow 165 .0 wet or 166.0 dry
Typical zfw. for a fully laden charter 763 120.0 tonne with nil freight .So you,ve got about 45 tonne of fuel to get wherever you want to go. Not enough for meaningful consistent longhaul without tech stops.For example a flight to the caribbean based on todays actual conditions requires at least 56.5 tonnes of fuel. Doncaster figures in similar conditions all above 180 tonnes.Hope this helps.:)
Oh and MTOW structural for the 763 is 186.8 .The C2 engined 762 is a very capable short field /long range aeroplane but they are rare and getting very old will be passing into the history books soon so I havn,t quoted their figures though they can achieve structural 159.2 or near in the above quoted conditions.
By: Expressflight - 20th February 2007 at 09:55
In fact, rather than ‘raw’ runway length, it is TODA which is the more relevant figure (plus ASDA being sufficient at any given weight of course):
14 a whopping 10,390 ft
32 7,840 ft
I would have thought the direct Wardair departure to Canada would have been off 14 rather than 32.
By: nordjet415 - 20th February 2007 at 08:57
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Hi there.
Not sure myself, however, the runway length at LBA is 7,400ft.
I was at LBA in 1984 when the Wardair 747 landed, as far as I remember, it flew non stop to Canada departing runway 32.
perhaps you can work your figures out from this.
regards
Nordjet 415