Russia movies S-400 Unity close to Finnish border !

What do you think: since 1946 which country has participated to the greatests number of wars, killed the greatests number of civilians and changed the greatest number of regimes?

How about since 1917 ?

What do you think: since 1946 which country has participated to the greatests number of wars, killed the greatests number of civilians and changed the greatest number of regimes?

a) USA, b) China (their own by the way), c) Soviet Union (the imposition of Comunist parties across the entire Eastern Europe and their “near abroad” was quite massive).
Your point being?

Since 1991, which country has created the largest changes to the internationally recognised world political map by personally annexing territory belonging to its neighbours?

That would be Eritrea, having annexed parts of both Djibouti and Ethiopia in 1993/1998.

Is there anything in the public domain on S-300 radar modes that illustrates the sort of information you are looking for?

None so far. However there are some interesting IEEE papers that i got on the design of S-300 radar suites.

I hosted them on my scribd :3

https://www.scribd.com/document/275319467/Recent-Developments-in-Russian-Radar-Systems

https://www.scribd.com/document/275316116/History-of-Russian-Monopulse-Radar-by-Leonov

The philosophy of Russian phased array design.
https://www.scribd.com/document/289047418/Survey-of-Russian-Low-Cost-Phased-Array

All those papers however are from 1990’s clearly, some of the contents might no longer relevant today. Especially for the newer system as S-400.

Is there anything in the public domain on S-300 radar modes that illustrates the sort of information you are looking for?

God Whyyy.

what i wish i could see is discussion about array technology in S-400 or whether S-400 still use high PRF (Up to 100 kHz) burst.

What do you think: since 1946 which country has participated to the greatests number of wars, killed the greatests number of civilians and changed the greatest number of regimes?

Since 1991, which country has created the largest changes to the internationally recognised world political map by personally annexing territory belonging to its neighbours?

Your multipart question has different answers for each part.

While I was aware of these facts, I am also aware that the entire staff of the KGB and GRU were not dismissed en masse circa 1990, but formed the basis of the present-day equivalent services. So a lot of old-style thinking and older world view may still apply.
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old style thinking? those people are already sidelined. it is the supercomputing that is improving the decisions.

http://www.russialist.org/archives/russia-mededev-super-computer-647.php
Kremlin Turns to Supercomputer for Advice

What do you think: since 1946 which country has participated to the greatests number of wars, killed the greatests number of civilians and changed the greatest number of regimes?

Russia never was brutal, in contrast to West. All WWs were started by West + Holocaust was done by the West + all most brutal ideologies were born by West. These are facts.

Interesting, you are actually mixing todays “Western” Democracies with a) the Austrian Hungarian and German empires and worse b) Nazi Germany! And that based on a very loose geographical (“The West”) notion…
And the “most brutal ideologies were born by the West”? You should really read some history books on China, India or the Midle East, like in Europe there were some pretty wild maniacs along the centuries.
Can we at least claim things like “Democracy”? Or documents like the “Déclaration des droits de l’homme et du citoyen”?

Mildly relevant: Russian-Armenian joint regional AA network agreement has been ratified

https://lenta.ru/news/2016/09/26/pvo/

Thanks for that diameter figure. This time, I will make sure that I do not lose it! It will go straight into my missile database.

As its inelegant form the land-based system demonstrates, it uses the same hardware as the ship-based system. This minimised the cost and speeded the deployment.

Thanks for taking into account my diminished eyesight (the result of advancing years), but I can manage perfectly well with normal-sized typeface.

While I was aware of these facts, I am also aware that the entire staff of the KGB and GRU were not dismissed en masse circa 1990, but formed the basis of the present-day equivalent services. So a lot of old-style thinking and older world view may still apply.

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I am also aware that the entire staff of the KGB and GRU were not dismissed en masse circa 1990, but formed the basis of the present-day equivalent services. So a lot of old-style thinking and older world view may still apply.

That’s true. A genocide was not committed on Russia to cleanse it of the old USSR. Which means exactly nothing.

Russia is more capitalist than the USSA is now. (way lower corp tax. 13% flat tax, lowest debt in G20, no net debt, 5th most forex reserves in the world) So there is no ideological difference here.

This analogy is poor.. Powerful security lights of your neighbour would disturb you at night.. But you cannot see radar waves and are in no way disturbed by them..

I find it poor but because it mentions “neighbors” as abstract beings in vacuum without recognizing the fact that this is the most powerful alliance in the world with the most powerful air force in the world.

I don’t see how “peaceful” skies over Europe are exclusively Russian responsibility. In my eyes it should be a product of relations between everyone involved.

The Kaliningrad enclave is small, and an S-300 system would have been more than enough to provide local air defence.

With all due respect, could you define “enough” please? If anything, Kaliningrad is seen as being basically “behind enemy lines”, where it could be easily dominated from any direction by the “enemy” that has the strongest Air Force and Navy in the world. I don’t see how this deployment is luxury rather than an absolute necessity.

There are some other elements to consider that indicate Russian stance in Baltic region very well: the ORBAT of units deployed in said region (compare it to the any other Russian region). Navy, Airforce, Missile Forces (Kaliningrad hasn’t even received it’s Iskander-M brigade IIRC?) and GF are pretty lackluster over there, all thanks to the fact that deterrence provided by “A2AD” networks is considered to be enough.

While I was aware of these facts, I am also aware that the entire staff of the KGB and GRU were not dismissed en masse circa 1990, but formed the basis of the present-day equivalent services. So a lot of old-style thinking and older world view may still apply.

Just repeating history.. So were the former Nazi officials in Germany after the war.. You can’t simply dismiss the whole layer of spook structure and expect to have “clean” replacements immediately at hand.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/intelligence-agency-s-murky-past-the-nazi-criminals-who-became-german-spooks-a-745640.html
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/01/08/nazi-j08.html

But I was not talking about the detection range of Russian air-surveillance radars. I was taking about the region of sky in which the S-400 system can engage targets.

As we speak, we both are located within the target engagement range of both Russian and American ICBMs. How unfriendly and provocative of those nations.. 🙂

To the best of my memory I have only twice flown by airliner through airspace defended by the elderly SAMs of what I would consider an unfriendly government. But I will confess to having viewed with trepidation an Israeli offer some years ago of a military helicopter flight up to the Golan Heights soon after a clash between the IDF and its Syrian counterpart.

Well, that depends on the definition of unfriendly, I guess. What can a Russian say when flying to Europe? 🙂

The diameter was 27 inches, which doesn’t currently fit a Mk41 naval VLS, but I can’t speak for the land-based system, assuming it isn’t the same, which it may be.

Thanks for that diameter figure. This time, I will make sure that I do not lose it! It will go straight into my missile database.

As its inelegant form the land-based system demonstrates, it uses the same hardware as the ship-based system. This minimised the cost and speeded the deployment.

You are aware that the current Russian Federation has NOTHING to do with what happened in the 80’s right ?

You are aware that the original cold war ended right ?

Thanks for taking into account my diminished eyesight (the result of advancing years), but I can manage perfectly well with normal-sized typeface.

While I was aware of these facts, I am also aware that the entire staff of the KGB and GRU were not dismissed en masse circa 1990, but formed the basis of the present-day equivalent services. So a lot of old-style thinking and older world view may still apply.

Detection of an adversary over your own territory is way too late, you need to extend the detection range as far as possible, in order to extend reaction times.. I don’t think there is any law limiting this detection range..

But I was not talking about the detection range of Russian air-surveillance radars. I was taking about the region of sky in which the S-400 system can engage targets.

When flying around the world, you would be within coverage of numerous SAM systems which you would consider “unfriendly”. Should their operators feel obliged to remove them or turn them off so that you can feel safe?

To the best of my memory I have only twice flown by airliner through airspace defended by the elderly SAMs of what I would consider an unfriendly government. But I will confess to having viewed with trepidation an Israeli offer some years ago of a military helicopter flight up to the Golan Heights soon after a clash between the IDF and its Syrian counterpart.

Russia on the other hand can’t even admit why it is that all of its “closest friends” fear and hate it. You persist in propagating lies and fairy tales about how Russia was “not brutal” or that if it was they had it coming anyway…

More BS from you. Most western Europeans do not fear or hate Russia.

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A CNN poll put Putin’s unfavourablity at 63% in the U.S, although it’s worth saying this isn’t any higher than certain members of Congress. Reverse this, and 37% favourability is still higher than figures such as British Chancellor, George Osbourne, and Business Secretary, Sajid Javid.

Russia on the other hand can’t even admit why it is that all of its “closest friends” fear and hate it. You persist in propagating lies and fairy tales about how Russia was “not brutal” or that if it was they had it coming anyway…

Again your limited understanding. those so called friends lilke Poland or some others lived on free money so there were no consequences for there BS that era is now coming to close both for new and old members. what is in store for them that is separate debate since they let down both Merkel/Obama and the powers behind them on refugees.

https://newswire.net/newsroom/news/00093657-joe-biden-eu-can-t-wait-to-lift-russia-sanctions.html
(Newswire.net — September 23, 2016) — US Vice President Joe Biden urged Ukraine to “straighten up and fly right” or the EU might lift Russia sanctions.

http://hungarianspectrum.org/2016/05/19/the-anti-hungarian-conspiracy-barack-obama-bill-clinton-and-george-soros/
In the past the American speculator tried to put pressure on the Hungarian government on several occasions, especially in issues of immigration and financial matters.”

Nobody defends what the Germans did, not even the Germans. Similarly while the US has made mistakes, it at least acknowledges them. A US history book will have a whole chapter on the Japanese internment, why it happened, why it was wrong, and what the lessons learned from it were. It will also have similar chapters on slavery, segregation, civil rights, etc. You won’t find anyone mainstream in the US defending those mistakes.

I personally am absolutely not interested in someone writing books about 100+ year old mistakes.. It would be much better to acknowledge recent mistakes like Iraq, Afghanistan or Libya, and, even more importantly, to stop doing the same in Syria and Ukraine.. That would be very nice, if you ask me..

The Kaliningrad enclave is small, and an S-300 system would have been more than enough to provide local air defence. But most of the coverage of the S-400 system based there extends over the territory of NATO countries. So its deployment there could be termed a provocative or unfriendly act.

Detection of an adversary over your own territory is way too late, you need to extend the detection range as far as possible, in order to extend reaction times.. I don’t think there is any law limiting this detection range..

An analogy might be a case where an unfriendly houseowner installs powerful security lights than shine not only into her own garden, but also into the gardens and into the windows of her neighbours.

This analogy is poor.. Powerful security lights of your neighbour would disturb you at night.. But you cannot see radar waves and are in no way disturbed by them..

I cannot speak for other forum members, but do not relish the prospect of flying into Cyprus for business or holiday and knowing that as we descend for landing we are within the coverage of a SAM system operated by an unfriendly country.

When flying around the world, you would be within coverage of numerous SAM systems which you would consider “unfriendly”. Should their operators feel obliged to remove them or turn them off so that you can feel safe?

Oddly enough I don’t see anything in the agreement that allows Russian forces to blockade Ukrainian forces in their garrisons, or cut off all access to Crimea in order to organize a sham referendum without even the most basic of protection in place. Maybe it is in the fine print?

Basically if I understand what you are asserting, you think US forces in Germany would be allowed to seize some part of German territory so long as they don’t exceed the agreed upon manning levels… idiocy.

You clearly do not have the basic knowledge of the region to make any informed statements on the situation. But I will reply anyway.

The US installed government in Kiev dissolved the Crimean Parliament. This was a hostile act and completely voids all of the treaties and checks and balances that Crimea had with Russia, the Ukraine and the international community.

Forget the fact that no blood was spilled through the whole ordeal and most local soldiers in Crimea voted to join Russia. Did you really expect Russia to stand by and watch a US funded rebel group seize Russia’s only warm water port and all of the assets therein ?

What did the English do when that happened in the Falklands ?

Washington “annexed” California in 1846. Now imagine a Russian funded coup toppled the Mexican govt and then the coup govt did not recognize the California annexation and sent an armed militia to seize the Navy base of San Diago ? And all of its assets ? Give. Your. Head. A. Shake.