September 6, 2007 at 11:16 pm
whats all the fuss about,those Soviet Socialists have been buzzing our airspace for eons,they fly over,scramble the RAF, both sets of aircrews watch and wave etc ,a few more miles the aircraft break off go home and thats it basically , i do like to see those tupelovs all contra props and deltas ,amazing looking aircraft flying slightly nose high, from an enthusiasts point of view long may they continue to fly , would be nice to aquire one for a museum/preservation group over here.a reverse of that russian millionaire chasing a B52 the other week,go on make the call ,perhaps Valdimir will be in a good mood lounging in his Dacha sipping smirnoff 😎 😎 😎
By: Nashio966 - 8th September 2007 at 15:30
Thankyou one and all for a truly enthusiastic responses, the painting and those photos are exellent really spot on i enjoyed looking at them,, its one hell of an aircraft (in laymans term it just looks so edgy and full of menace) everything a bear should be and more, so come on RAf museum/Duxford?Cosford/Elvington?Newark etc etc Oh and East Fortune get talking to uncle boris, ITS BEARTIME PLAYMATES!!!!!!!:cool: 😎 😎 😎
considering that one of them is basically the size of a B52, wouldnt they need to fly one into the museum, could they land one at cosford :confused: would love to see one though, that would be an awesome addition to the collection at dx
By: TwinOtter23 - 8th September 2007 at 11:51
Didn’t know the Welsh flew Migs:)
H.A.A.S.F me thinks!:D
“Hawarden Air Services Air Force”
By: Radpoe Meteor - 8th September 2007 at 08:51
Perhaps one of these Russian premiership football club owners could cough up for a bear-must be peanuts to the cost of a decent striker.:rolleyes:
By: Creaking Door - 8th September 2007 at 00:05
‘ere ya go :- http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/mos2007_day01.html
Very nice…maybe they would be interested in some sort of swap? 🙂
It is a pity but apart from a Nimrod, Vulcan, Victor, Comet, VC10, Hercules, Canberra, Phantom, Lightning, Jaguar, Buccaneer, Shackleton, Sea Harrier or a Tornado I can’t think of a single airframe that is under threat, that the RAF could offer in exchange! :diablo:
By: Bruggen 130 - 7th September 2007 at 23:55
Newark has made a bit of a start with:
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23ML “Flogger” 024003607 “07”
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-27K “Flogger” 61912507006 “71”
http://www.newarkairmuseum.org/aircraftlist.htm
Although ‘on-loan’ from North Wales perhaps doesn’t really count!
Didn’t know the Welsh flew Migs:)
By: Flanker_man - 7th September 2007 at 23:50
Monino is the official Russian air force museum. There is quite a bit of WW2 stuff there, but it’s the cold war stuff there that really is most impressive.
(cue Ken / FlankerMan with a link to one of his photoreports…)
‘ere ya go :- http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/mos2007_day01.html

Ken
By: Flanker_man - 7th September 2007 at 23:45
Good idea, after all the Russians helped the Americans win WW11:rolleyes:
No but joking aside I think it would be fitting to have a museum dedicated
to all the Airmen of Russia who gave their lives fighting in WW11.
Regards Phil.
Most people don’t know that the top scoring Allied ace of WWII was Soviet – Ivan Kozhedub with 62 victories.
Ken
By: TwinOtter23 - 7th September 2007 at 23:29
Newark has made a bit of a start with:
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23ML “Flogger” 024003607 “07”
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-27K “Flogger” 61912507006 “71”
http://www.newarkairmuseum.org/aircraftlist.htm
Although ‘on-loan’ from North Wales perhaps doesn’t really count!
By: Arthur - 7th September 2007 at 23:23
Have they got a museum like that in Russia? Bit like the Russian equivalent of the RAFM ?
Monino is the official Russian air force museum. There is quite a bit of WW2 stuff there, but it’s the cold war stuff there that really is most impressive.
(cue Ken / FlankerMan with a link to one of his photoreports…)
But getting hold of a Tu-95 (or -142) for an aviation museum in Britain would be a tough one. A LOT of the withdrawn Russian ones have been scrapped in the early 1990s, as have the bulk of the Ukrainian machines a bit later. There still are a few to be found, but if you want a Soviet bomber in the UK, i’d guess chances of obtaining a Tu-16 would be much bigger. Far more around – ‘eck, swap the Victor from Marham for the Badger from Shatalovo 🙂
By: David Burke - 7th September 2007 at 23:11
Have they got a museum like that in Russia? Bit like the Russian equivalent of the RAFM ?
By: Bruggen 130 - 7th September 2007 at 22:41
How about a Soviet Heroes museum next to the American Airforce Museum at Duxford, that could be interesting.
Good idea, after all the Russians helped the Americans win WW11:rolleyes:
No but joking aside I think it would be fitting to have a museum dedicated
to all the Airmen of Russia who gave their lives fighting in WW11.
Regards Phil.
By: Creaking Door - 7th September 2007 at 21:31
I’d love to see one of these preserved in the UK. An excellent Cold War exhibit for Cosford perhaps?
It should be possible, after all isn’t there a Tu-144 ‘Concordski’ preserved in Germany?
Been there, tried it.
At that time (2000/2001) they certainly knew the ‘value’ of aircraft and were not prepared to donate anything for free despite what they might say initially. I was even asked by people in Tupolev OKB what the value of a Tu-95 might be if they put it up for auction.
I’m so impressed you’ve even tried!
I wonder how the Germans got their Tu-144, surely harder to obtain than a Tu-95…
…I suppose they must have…err…paid for it. :rolleyes:
Couldn’t one of our (many) Concordes be swapped for one? :diablo:
By: bexWH773 - 7th September 2007 at 21:20
Here’s another one just to keep you going and to keep the Americans happy.
There was a time when these pics were as common as muck….good old days!
Once again, courtesy of 43 Squadron.Beat Wishes.
Robert.
Those were the days, when we had proper aeroplanes, F4’s & Lightnings chasing after the “Big Bad Bears” LoL No offence to the “Young uns” that grew up on Tonkas & Jaguars 😀 Bex
By: northeagle - 7th September 2007 at 21:01
Here’s another one just to keep you going and to keep the Americans happy.
There was a time when these pics were as common as muck….good old days!
Once again, courtesy of 43 Squadron.
Beat Wishes.
Robert.
By: low'n'slow - 7th September 2007 at 18:53
A real one circa 1981 courtesy of 43 Squadron.
Best Wishes.
Robert.
Lovely photo Robert. I wonder how many more are out there?
There was a time when in the early 1980s when every crew room seemed to have one, complete with Russian crews holding up copies of Playboy for the cameras (not to mention giving vectors to tankers for fuel-starved Lightning pilots!!).
By: Nashio966 - 7th September 2007 at 18:30
It isn’t necessarily loud – just a deep ‘thrum’ – and according to some – nauseating.
Bears – in transit to Cuba in the old days – have apparently been picked up by the American SOSUS underwater listening devices strung along the seabed off the coast of the US!!:eek:
Ken
so its a loud deep thrum then? :diablo:
By: victor45 - 7th September 2007 at 18:20
russian bears
Thankyou one and all for a truly enthusiastic responses, the painting and those photos are exellent really spot on i enjoyed looking at them,, its one hell of an aircraft (in laymans term it just looks so edgy and full of menace) everything a bear should be and more, so come on RAf museum/Duxford?Cosford/Elvington?Newark etc etc Oh and East Fortune get talking to uncle boris, ITS BEARTIME PLAYMATES!!!!!!!:cool: 😎 😎 😎
By: northeagle - 7th September 2007 at 17:26
A real one circa 1981 courtesy of 43 Squadron.
Best Wishes.
Robert.
By: RPSmith - 7th September 2007 at 16:34
where’s Tom Cruise when we need him? 😀 😀 😀
Roger Smith.
By: Flanker_man - 7th September 2007 at 15:13
And the Spit pilot would be deafened, apparently the sound of a Bear is fairly loud (and nuisating) to an F-14 pilot!
It isn’t necessarily loud – just a deep ‘thrum’ – and according to some – nauseating.
Bears – in transit to Cuba in the old days – have apparently been picked up by the American SOSUS underwater listening devices strung along the seabed off the coast of the US!!:eek:
Ken