October 12, 2007 at 7:54 pm
In the latest issue of „Combat Aircraft“ (Vol. 8 No. 5, page 29) is a single picture showing that Tu-95MS + 16 missiles said to be the Ch-101.
Does anyone have some more information and esp. more pictures !?
Deino :confused:
By: Otaku - 26th October 2007 at 18:42
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Kh-101 & Kh-555.
By: Mercurius - 24th October 2007 at 21:22
According to Jane’s Defence Weekly, the Kh-101 is approximately 7 m in length. The podded NPO Saturn TRDD-50 turbojet engine is housed inside the rear of the missile and drops down on a pylon when the missile is released from its launch aircraft.
This may confirm earlier rumours that the originally-planned propfan engine has been abandoned
Mercurius Cantabrigiensis
By: Arabella-Cox - 24th October 2007 at 05:50
I doubt any cruise missile can meet the power requirement of such device , Looks to me that such device will be used in Aircraft than cruise missile
That is what I was thinking initially but with the jet engine normally used in long range cruise missiles now in the Ukraine some of the alternatives list features like increased electrical power feed to on board systems which makes me think perhaps a twin jet engine throttled back so AB was not needed for most of the flight at medium altitude with a higher thrust setting to get just subsonic speeds nearer the target area might be a useful option if the extra power makes plasma stealth viable which would in turn make medium altitude flight safe as it is the most efficient flight regime for a jet.
By: Austin - 23rd October 2007 at 14:51
That supposed Keldesh device was supposed to weigh about 100kg and was supposed to be most efficient at high altitudes.
I doubt any cruise missile can meet the power requirement of such device , Looks to me that such device will be used in Aircraft than cruise missile
By: Arabella-Cox - 23rd October 2007 at 07:05
That supposed Keldesh device was supposed to weigh about 100kg and was supposed to be most efficient at high altitudes. That is good news for a cruise missile as a high flight profile is the most efficient, which alone would probably extend range beyond 5,500km as long as a significant sized solid rocket booster were used to get it airborne and up to reasonable speed.
By: over G - 23rd October 2007 at 01:29
well, yes Garry, you are right about that, but i dont see any great technologic challenge to increase the range of a subsonic missile, -a high supersonic is a big trouble-, of course to increase the size of the missile is the most obvious solution
but i think that the real news here are the famous ionic devices that supposely decrease the rcs of the missile, if such device works -and it seems since is already in two missiles, and maybe in other systems- then they can avoid any super-duper tax costing and even uneffective pasive concept to achieve a low rcs
and can be installed in any plane, missile, etc whitout a great change in it design -besides i think that the device only works in the front plane of the missile-
By: Deino - 22nd October 2007 at 20:23
Jane’s on Kh-101:
http://www.janes.com/news/defence/systems/jdw/jdw071022_1_n.shtml
Thanks for that link and has anyone noticed there’s another picture available.
Anyone with a larger version of that ???? PLEASE !!!
Deino
By: BREZHNEV - 22nd October 2007 at 12:31
As we all know the Kh-55 was the basis for the naval SS-N-21 Granat. Is possible as I read in wikipedia, Kh-101 to be used also from naval platforms as the project 885 Granay SSNs and possibly (I wish so) to modernized “Admiral Nakhimov” missile cruiser?
By: Otaku - 22nd October 2007 at 11:43
Jane’s on Kh-101:
http://www.janes.com/news/defence/systems/jdw/jdw071022_1_n.shtml
By: Arabella-Cox - 21st October 2007 at 09:16
just another subsonic cruiser missile, big deal
At 5,000km range it has excellent range… in fact give it some expendible fuel tanks to further boost range to over 5,500km and it could be used in a land launched model as it is too long a range to be restricted by the INF treaty. Low flying subsonic cruise missiles are still very effective weapons. 80% of the countries of the world wouldn’t notice such a weapon till it exploded on target…
By: Pit - 19th October 2007 at 17:44
Marabu was a supposedly plasma-stealth (plasmagenic?) kind of equipment slatted for 3M25 series of cruise missiles (Meteorit)
This one is just a LO one.
By: over G - 19th October 2007 at 11:38
just another subsonic cruiser missile, big deal
anyway, supossely this missile is linked with some new gizmo named maraburu or something like that, which use the already well known ionization concept to reduce it rcs, even a russian colonel, sargent,comodore or whatever said that, so that gizmo exist??
By: Flanker_man - 19th October 2007 at 08:58
‘Combat Aircraft’ isn’t a title I’m familiar with. Who publishes it? Is there a website?
Mercurius Cantabrigiensis
Google is your friend……
http://www.newsstand.co.uk/142-Aviation/2603-COMBAT-AIRCRAFT.aspx
http://www.amazon.com/Combat-Aircraft/dp/B00007HY9J
http://www.ianallanpublishing.com/home.php?cat=1298
Ken
By: RSM55 - 19th October 2007 at 00:35
…those are aerodynamic tests of full weapons carriage onboard Bear-H, no other explanation for hanging up 8 missiles under pylons at the same time.
If the colour code means anything, these are dummies (probably aeroballistic).
Probably operating out of Akhtubinsk, itsn’t RSM-55?
Zhukovski. Some other carriers were involved too, I can only confirm the external carriage conformations. Live firing tests and calibration at other test ranges (still ongoing – AFAIK at least 3 different versions of the missile are being tested right now – TsAGI can’t compute everything 😀 ).
RSM55 , If they are flying it as a matter of routine operational system for over a year , and if no attempt is made to hide it , as in not carry on external pylon and only internal rotary launchers.
You’re right – only that in today’s Russia (as in a lot of other countries BTW), what matters is not what is secret, but only what ought to / is supposed to be secret – regardless how absurd the regulations or the context may be. I was hinting only at that.
Then its just a matter of time some plane spotter or even NATO aircraft on patrol will get a good close pictures of it, The RuAF certainly dosent seem or want to keep this as secret.
a) There are not sooooo many planespotters at Zhukovski at the moment (and if, they are semi-official/tolerated/known/very lucky/fools).
b) NATO aircraft won’t enter Russian airspace for “Combat Aircraft”‘s sake AFAIK
c) Russian airmen are quite a cool and relaxed bunch as far as my experience goes, contrary to the usual FSB / Attorney General clerk, and that‘s their regulatory field.
From the pictures can some one figure out if its propulsion is a Ducted Turbofan or a pusher contra propellor system
Neither nor 😉 😎
By: Mercurius - 18th October 2007 at 17:17
‘Combat Aircraft’ isn’t a title I’m familiar with. Who publishes it? Is there a website?
Mercurius Cantabrigiensis
By: Arabella-Cox - 18th October 2007 at 09:30
Of course they are training, but the only problem is they tend to often wander into others airspaces.
The Backfire will carry the Kh-101 conventionally armed cruise missile but will not carry the Kh-102 nuclear armed strategic cruise missile. It will likely be able to carry 4 exterally and have the weapons bay available for up to 6 AS-16 KICKBACK defence suppression missiles.
By: Vetinari - 16th October 2007 at 20:35
In one of the suggested modernizations it was said that Tu-22M3s would have the ability to carry 2-3 X-101/102 and an improved X-22. Yet, I have no idea if the current program includes such plans :confused:
By: Rodolfo - 16th October 2007 at 20:15
Can the Backfires carry some Kh-101? If the answer is “yes”, then the 70s American “nightmare about strategic Tu-22” becomes immediately true. Off course at present days this is not an important subject as it was during the Cold War. In the end such a combination can give a considerable flexibility to the RuAF for missions like i.e hitting targets in the Indian Ocean.
By: Pit - 16th October 2007 at 16:52
Unless that one is a conventional warhead missile only (by the moment)
My opinion, those are aerodynamic tests of full weapons carriage onboard Bear-H, no other explanation for hanging up 8 missiles under pylons at the same time.
Probably operating out of Akhtubinsk, itsn’t RSM-55?
By: TEEJ - 16th October 2007 at 13:38
The Russians would have to declare this nuclear capable cruise missile under treaty conditions. Treaty inspectors from both sides respectively still visit and inspect each others long-range nuclear assets.
They display munitions for initial technical exhibitions. The same would happen if say the US or Russia put a new heavy strategic bomber into service.
Photographs from the technical exhibition of AS-15s


If the missile has technically entered service then the Russians have to declare it and show it for an inspection.