Russian Fleet Defenses

does killing an innocent airliner with hundreds of passengers make AEGIS battle tested?

im sorry, i think AEGIS is an excellent system too, but i’m not sure it can be called “battle-tested” in the usual sense of the word.

Smart-L is great, as is APAR

That’s one of the reason’s why the old Tico are retiring, that and the fact that they don’t have VLS, but the new SPY-1C and SPY-1D radars are still some of the world’s best radars. The AEGIS is also the only battle tested, naval mounted, phased array. Since everyone thinks that the Smart-L is so great, you would have to include the SPY-3 AEGIS in there as well because it has been built and tested, just not deployed on a vessel yet.

http://www.designation-systems.net/non-us/soviet.html

Click the link at the top. Don’t e-mail me since my web access is still broke at home 😀

can i have that spreadsheet?

hmmm doesn’t a SPY-1 module and Aegis cost about $400mlln?
The interference is something the Russians seem to have dealt with, they were quite known for that. On Kashin already they use a lot of different systems.
Yes it’s probably expensive, yet still it seems to be less expensive than Aegis. Considering their much smaller cost of vessels. (add this to the fact that they build much less vessels of one class, hence this increases their cost already). BTW Aegis is old and outdated anyway.
Sean’s spreadsheat is absolutely fabulous (I helped correcting it :D)

They simply rely on this multiple layer system, every system its own radar.

woulden’t it be very expensive to install all these radar let alone maintain all of them…???

and how do you make sure that the radars doesn’t interfere with each other??? If you have different unit of the same radar and running on similar frequencies, i think it’s just gonna get caotic…

I think it’s just too much work and money the way the russians are doing it… not that it’s not a good idea…

that spreadsheet sounds good 🙂

I have a lot more info availabile in the Russian Missiles spreadsheet I’m still completing. It’ll have the missiles, radars, and associated equipment listed. Should be done in a few weeks. The current version can be downloaded here: www.designation-systems.net

Well, basically the Russians seem to have solved their Lack of Aegis by doing this.
If the Volna (S300F) guidance can take on 6 targets, and you have two of these, then you have 12 targets at one time for your outward layer. The second layer, consists of Kinzhal, 15km range, one radar mounted, let’s say this one can track 3 targets, that already makes your total go to 15 targets.
Then come the 6 Kashtan modules, each taking one target, that makes 21 targets at one time in different layers/ranges. I don’t think the Harpoon attack will get far :rolleyes:

They simply rely on this multiple layer system, every system its own radar.

Little correction there, Shtil-1 is more comparable to ESSM at the moment, S300F would be more of a SM-2 counterpart.

Guidance:
SA-N-6 (S300F) Top Dome (Volna)
SA-NX-20 (S300FM)Tomb Stone
SA-N-7 (Buk?) Front Dome (Orekh)
SA-N-12(Shtil-1) Front Dome (Orekh)
SA-N-9 (Kinzhal) Cross Sword

blabla,
get back to you when I have more time. If someone else hasn’t completed the list that is.

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Positiv-E 2-D shipborne radar

Positiv-ME1 3-D shipborne radar

Mineral-ME shipborne acquisition and target designation radar

Pal-N1 navigation radar

Fregat-MAE family 3-D shipborne radars

Podberezovik-ET1 and Podberezovik-ET2 3-D shipborne radars

Poima-E shipborne radar and target data processing system

Here are some names of their radar systems.

what about radars of those boats? (and all those systems, can anyone be boat-specific?)

American system…………………….. Russian system
Phalanx & Sea RAM………………………… Kashtan
ESSM………………………………………… Klinok (Tor)
SM-2………………………………………… Shtil-1 (Buk)
none…………………………………………. Rif (S-300)

Hope this helps!
A lot of information can be found on the net on any of these systems by doing a quick google search!

SA-N-7 has a limited anti-missile capability, it’s carried by Sovremennyys.

Kirov and Slava have the SA-N-6 and/or SA-N-20, which are equal to or greater than the PAC-3 in terms of performance.