September 6, 2004 at 6:12 pm
Does anyone on this board have any information what happened to the Hampden tailsection and other parts that were imported from Russia a few years ago?
Cheers
Cees
By: JDK - 7th September 2004 at 16:55
Market forces.
To rebuild an a/c can (often) cost more than you can sell it for. If it’s not first rank famous it’ll just cost a lot more than you could ever recoup. That’s fine if you want to, but sadly, by definition, few people want to compared to the more famous types.
Cheers
(1st rank: Spitfire, Mustang etc.)
(Others: Miles wooden a/c; Supermarine Walrus etc…)
By: adrian_gray - 7th September 2004 at 16:28
Which leads us to the old question of when it becomes a replica… (no, NOT a good one to discuss, especially as it began life as a thread on the flying tadpole).
Sorry folks, I am just interested in how much or how little one can rebuild from a crash site – Spitfires do seem to have the biggest cachet if you can rebuild one (probably P-51 next) – and why some aircraft seem to be rebuildable from small piles of scrap whilst with others you don’t seem to be able to do it if you have an near-intact airframe.
So presumably the major factors are:
availability of components
Availability of important things to make components with (like money)?
Adrian
By: Moggy C - 7th September 2004 at 16:17
If it was a Spitfire someone would be restoring it to fly right now.
Discuss the above statement.
ADrian
If it was a Spitfire there would be a much greater stock of off-the-shelf components available to be used in any restoration.
Moggy
By: adrian_gray - 7th September 2004 at 16:17
That’s a very interesting point, Yak 11 Fan. I’ve been rather bemused by some of the reports of aircraft coming out of Russia “to be restored to airworthy condition” – one in Flypast a number of years ago particularly comes to mind as being a spread of wreckage laid out in what from a plan view was recognizable as a Spitfire, but from side on looked more like roadkill. I’ve no doubt that some will fly (Fw189, I hope!) and some HAVE flown, but I do wonder whether some recovery teams might have over-egged the cake a bit….
Adrian
By: Yak 11 Fan - 7th September 2004 at 15:54
Maybe, maybe not, there have been a few Spitfires out of Russia most of which are currently stored.
By: adrian_gray - 7th September 2004 at 15:42
hmm not much to look at eh?
Cat amongst the pigeons time…
If it was a Spitfire someone would be restoring it to fly right now.
Discuss the above statement.
ADrian
By: Peter - 7th September 2004 at 14:35
hmm not much to look at eh?
By: HP57 - 7th September 2004 at 13:16
Thanks very much Mark,
Much appreciated. The HP52 is another one of my interests. Or should it be Handley Page Ltd. 😎
Cheers
Cees
By: Mark12 - 7th September 2004 at 12:58
Russian Hampden number two – P1273
Cees,
Here are the photos at the recovery site in Russia.
To the best of my knowledge they are still with the Brothers Hunt in Surrey/Sussex.
Mark
By: Whitley_Project - 7th September 2004 at 11:44
Cees,
I have the prints/negs taken both in Russia and the UK – not the RAF machine.
I just need to locate them.
Mark
Are the items still with the Hunt’s Mark12?
By: Mark12 - 7th September 2004 at 09:20
Tail end – Hampden
Cees,
I have the prints/negs taken both in Russia and the UK – not the RAF machine.
I just need to locate them.
Mark
By: HP57 - 7th September 2004 at 09:07
Hi Steve,
No, not that one but that is my fault, I had to be more specific.
I was meaning the other bits among which was a tailsection that were recovered by the Hunt Brothers IIRC and last thing I know was that it was put in storage at Jim Pearce’s facility.
Cheers
Cees
By: Steve Bond - 7th September 2004 at 08:35
I guess you mean the almost complete wreck that belongs to the RAF Museum. I believe it is still with Skysport being half-and-half restored.