I found this Akula 2 SSN video , Can some one translate it in English if it has some interesting comment .
By: gunner5" - 4th August 2009 at 14:53
Russia may order amphibious assault ship from France
Russia is planning to purchase a Mistral class large amphibious assault ship from France, a French business daily has said.
According to La Tribune newspaper, the ongoing talks on the issue may result in an agreement as early as September.
The purchase, if successful, would be the first large-scale arms import deal concluded by Russia since the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Russia first expressed interest in bilateral cooperation with France in the sphere of naval equipment and technologies in 2008 when Navy chief Adm. Vladimir Vysotsky visited the Euronaval 2008 arms show in France.
The admiral said then that the Russian Navy was interested “in joint research and also direct purchases of French naval equipment.”
According to some sources, the possibility of buying a Mistral class amphibious assault ship was discussed at the naval show in St. Petersburg in June this year.
A Mistral class ship is capable of transporting and deploying 16 helicopters, four landing barges, up to 70 vehicles including 13 main battle tanks, and 450 soldiers. The ship is equipped with a 69-bed hospital.
The Russian Kommersant business daily confirmed on Tuesday the possibility of the deal but said Russian military experts were skeptical about it.
“The Russian Navy lacks the means to finance even the production of corvettes and missile boats, let alone the purchase of large combat ships,” the paper quoted Mikhail Barabanov, science editor of the Eksport Vooruzheny (Arms Export) journal, as saying.
“From this standpoint, the order of a large aircraft carrier with a deadweight of over 20,000 tons, which is inferior only to the sole Russian aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov, seems rather strange, to say the least,” the analyst said.
Ruslan Pukhov, director of the Moscow-based Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, said “although the practice of arms imports will become more common in Russia in the future, the Mistral deal is rather questionable from a military standpoint, as well as Russia’s hopes for the transfer of advanced technologies from France.”
Russia’s current weapons procurement program through 2015 does not envision construction or purchases of large combat ships, so the possible acquisition of a French Mistral class ship is most likely to happen under the new program for the years up to 2020, which is still in the development.
RIA Novosti
By: Arabella-Cox - 27th July 2009 at 23:24
At nearly 5 tons and 34 ft long, it’s a monster. It’s propelled by a water-jet.
Russian 650 mm torpedo: TT-5
By: Austin - 26th July 2009 at 17:08
Russia to have balanced nuclear missile navy by 2050 – navy chief
SEVASTOPOL, July 26 (RIA Novosti) – The Russian Navy is developing a concept of building a balanced nuclear missile force by 2050, the Russian Navy commander said on Sunday.
“In our understanding, it is important to know exactly what the Navy should be by the year 2050, proceeding from two things: it must be a balanced nuclear missile force and, secondly, it must comply with the state’s national interests and economic possibilities,” Adm. Vladimir Vysotsky said on the occasion of Russia’s Navy Day being celebrated on Sunday.
Vysotsky said the Russian Navy should develop harmoniously without any preference given to the construction of surface ships or submarines.
“We will be building combat systems in addition to warships. I call this the construction of the Navy with open architecture, which will feature combat systems, complexes, ships, aircraft, anti-missile defense, outer space and the submarine environment,” he said.
Vysotsky said that failures with the tests of Russia’s new Bulava sea-launched intercontinental ballistic missile manifested a crisis in the development of technologies in Russia.
The missile, which is being developed by the Moscow-based Institute of Thermal Technology (MITT), has had six failures in 11 tests, and the general director of the institute resigned on Tuesday over what is believed to be a serious setback in the development of Russia’s nuclear deterrent.
At the same time, the Navy chief said that Russia’s modern Project 955 Borey nuclear-powered strategic submarines were not intended to be equipped with Sineva ballistic missiles instead of Bulava.
Under the Russian State Arms Procurement Program for 2007-2015, the Navy is expected to receive at least five Project 955 Borey nuclear-powered strategic submarines equipped with new Bulava ballistic missiles and two Project 885 Yasen nuclear multipurpose attack submarines.
The RSM-54 Sineva (SS-N-23 Skiff) is a third-generation liquid-propellant submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM) that entered service with the Russian Navy in July 2007. It can carry four or 10 nuclear warheads, depending on the modification, and has a maximum range of over 11,500 kilometers (about 7,100 miles).
The Bulava (SS-NX-30) submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM) carries up to 10 MIRV warheads and has an estimated range of over 8,000 kilometers (5,000 miles).
By: Austin - 26th July 2009 at 17:06
Russia to lay down one multipurpose submarine a year from 2011
The Russian Navy command has made a decision on building one nuclear-powered multipurpose attack submarine a year from 2011, the Navy chief said on Sunday.
Adm. Vladimir Vysotsky said that construction of a second Project 885 Yasen (Graney) class nuclear-powered multipurpose attack submarine started at the Sevmash shipyard in northern Russia on July 24.
Vysotsky said the state currently had all possibilities, including economic and financial, to implement this project as soon as possible.
The Kazan submarine will feature more advanced equipment than the first vessel in the series – the Severodvinsk, which was laid down in 1992 and is scheduled to join the Russian navy in 2010 or early 2011 after a long delay for financial reasons.
“The second submarine will have improved electronics and fire-control systems, and will be built exclusively with Russian-made materials and components,” Sevmash spokeswoman Anastasia Nikitinskaya earlier said.
The submarine’s armament will include 24 cruise missiles, including the 3M51 Alfa SLCM, the SS-NX-26 Oniks SLCM or the SS-N-21 Granat/Sampson SLCM. It will also have eight torpedo tubes as well as mines and anti-ship missiles such as SS-N-16 Stallion.
Vysotsky also said that Russia would annually build warships and nuclear submarines for the Russian Black Sea Fleet stationed in Ukraine’s Crimea.
“From 2010, we’ll annually lay down one surface ship and one nuclear submarine for the Black Sea Fleet,” he said.
By: Austin - 26th July 2009 at 17:01
At the end of the day space is a premium for weapons internally , so there needs to be a right mix of Torpedo which is submarine primary armament against ships and submarine and missile which gives standoff and strategic strike capability.
Any thing more or less can effect operational capability of submarine and tactical capability, hence it makes sense to move the missile into a modular VLS capability and keep the internal space for more of Torpedo and right amount of anti-ship/Klub/Vodapod type missile.
By: Wanshan - 26th July 2009 at 12:42
Well go for a 100 cm just as well then. I just notice that new development are mostly 53 cm designs and i would expect the russian to soon start making universal designs and launchers for new weaponsystems, like the club system.
As for universal designs, there of course already is the Club family that can be launched from 53cm tubes. For something bigger – like Onyx or Brahmos – a tube of 70-80 cm would be needed.
There’s a limit though to the amount of upscaling that is possibly: at some point the torpedo will become too unwielding to be able to be used in scramped sub spaces (unless you use the tube like a 1 shot silo). So, 100mm might be unfeasible.
By: Austin - 26th July 2009 at 12:03
Ok we have 2 contenders for Long Range Precision Strike for Yasen ,Akula and Oscar .
The first is the KH-555 operational with Strategic Bombers , pics shows being loaded inside the Tu-95MS rotary launcher and the other is KH-101 shown in red is a training round at the last stage of testing.
Both these are huge missile and can arm the Yasen and modernised Akula and Oscar to be carried out from 2010 , so the strike capability is just phenomenal , both should be carried on subs
By: Nicolas - 26th July 2009 at 10:10
Nicolas,
As Austin was saying, there are new torpedoes of various kinds of development. I had a more specific link, I’ll try to find it if I can.
Whatever you can do with a 533mm torpedo today, a 650mm torpedo can always do more. It’s basic logic.
The Yasen along with the Oscar II will pack the heaviest punch of any submarines for decades to come.
Well go for a 100 cm just as well then. I just notice that new development are mostly 53 cm designs and i would expect the russian to soon start making universal designs and launchers for new weaponsystems, like the club system.
We really do not know the weaponload of the Yasen so dont even start comparing it with an Oscar or other classes, it is all just rumours. We have had a glimt of the basic design of the hull and given some inaccurate measurements thats all. We do not even know what kind of missiles the VLS cells will carry. We do not know how big the torpedoroom will be and how many weapon it can hold, remember moving the tubes aft of the bow is new to the russians
By: echonine - 26th July 2009 at 07:54
Nicolas,
As Austin was saying, there are new torpedoes of various kinds of development. I had a more specific link, I’ll try to find it if I can.
Whatever you can do with a 533mm torpedo today, a 650mm torpedo can always do more. It’s basic logic.
The Yasen along with the Oscar II will pack the heaviest punch of any submarines for decades to come.
By: Austin - 26th July 2009 at 05:00
Is the Medvedka system operational in the russain navy? What is the improvements in rel to the Stallion? It is a fairly simple system, delievering a torpedo or depth charge some kilometers away. The range is probably limited to the range of onboard sensors, i guess the Medvedka is only a modification created to deliver a new type of torpedo..
Yes Medvedka system is operational on Russian Navy ships.
Upgrades for operational torpedoes like UGST ,TEST-71 and other electrical torpedoes are available , improvements are in Sensors and Algorithm , Janes carried a detailed report on upgraded Torpedoes if I find it I will post it.
Plus new generation of Torpedoes are underdevelopment link
Dont underestimate the importance of Type 65 Torpedoes , it still give the best Single Shot Kill Probability to bring down a very large aircraft carrier like operated by US with a conventional warhead , so we will see 65 cm torpedoes in service and new ones as well.
By: Nicolas - 25th July 2009 at 20:56
Russia has withdrawn all the Torpedo which were powered by HTP fuel as liquid fuel leak of one of the practice torpedo lead to Kursk tragedy.
I have doubts they use those Type 65 any more
Thanks for info, i knew i have read about that but could not find a source so did not mention it.
So, what are the primary torpedoes used today?
Is the Medvedka system operational in the russain navy? What is the improvements in rel to the Stallion? It is a fairly simple system, delievering a torpedo or depth charge some kilometers away. The range is probably limited to the range of onboard sensors, i guess the Medvedka is only a modification created to deliver a new type of torpedo..
By: Austin - 25th July 2009 at 20:29
Russia has withdrawn all the Torpedo which were powered by HTP fuel as liquid fuel leak of one of the practice torpedo lead to Kursk tragedy.
I have doubts they use those Type 65 any more
By: echonine - 25th July 2009 at 20:04
The Type 65 is an old torpedo (30 year old design), i am not aware of any new 65 cm torpedo projects. New projects are 53cm and smaller. For a subroc system there is no need to use the Stallion, you can use the 53 cm Starfish or the new developed Medvedka. Are you concerned about the extra power 65cm torpedo might give you (large targets, carriers etc) you use anti-ship missiles. Todays 53 cm heavyweight torpedoes probably give you just as much power as the old Type 65 and with better homing etc..
650mm tubes offer plenty of advantages, from Stallion to Type 65.
Type 65 torpedoes can be used out to 100KM – standoff torpedo capability is quite important.
Also, do not forget that any 650mm tube can also hold a 533mm round with an adapter.
I am questioning the need for a “modified” Yasen design even before the first boat is finished. We are hearing about new projects all the time, how about starting getting some ships/submarines out of the yards?!
Consider Yasen on par with Seawolf electronics. Early – mid 1990s stuff.
Consider Yasen-M on par with Virginia – 2000+ level electronics.
By: Nicolas - 25th July 2009 at 19:25
Type 65 650mm torpedoes are certainly in service, and they pack a hell of a punch, and there is absolutely no need to plug up VLS cells with Stallions – what a horrid idea!
The Type 65 is an old torpedo (30 year old design), i am not aware of any new 65 cm torpedo projects. New projects are 53cm and smaller. For a subroc system there is no need to use the Stallion, you can use the 53 cm Starfish or the new developed Medvedka. Are you concerned about the extra power 65cm torpedo might give you (large targets, carriers etc) you use anti-ship missiles. Todays 53 cm heavyweight torpedoes probably give you just as much power as the old Type 65 and with better homing etc..
I am questioning the need for a “modified” Yasen design even before the first boat is finished. We are hearing about new projects all the time, how about starting getting some ships/submarines out of the yards?!
By: Nicolas - 25th July 2009 at 18:50
The Type 65 is an old torpedo (30 year old design), i am not aware of any new 65 cm torpedo projects. New projects are 53cm and smaller. For a subroc system there is no need to use the Stallion, you can use the 53 cm Starfish or the new developed Medvedka. Are you concerned about the extra power 65cm torpedo might give you (large targets, carriers etc) you use anti-ship missiles. Todays 53 cm heavyweight torpedoes probably give you just as much power as the old Type 65 and with better homing etc..
I am questioning the need for a “modified” Yasen design even before the first boat is finished. We are hearing about new projects all the time, what about starting getting some ships/submarines out of the yards?!
By: echonine - 25th July 2009 at 15:51
Bad article, cant trust anything about the Yasen’s specs. 199 meters?? No way, that is even longer than Typhoon class.
If the class is fitted with aft of the bow torpedotubes i doubt they will have both 65 and 53 cm. If you have VLS cells there is no need for the 65cm for launching Stallion.
Do they have 65 cm torpedoes in service?
No need to list all the antiship and land attack missiles in russian inventory, there is just no info about missile published yet. It will most likely be fitted with only one of them. One antiship and one LACM.
Type 65 650mm torpedoes are certainly in service, and they pack a hell of a punch, and there is absolutely no need to plug up VLS cells with Stallions – what a horrid idea!
By: Austin - 25th July 2009 at 10:13
Bad article, cant trust anything about the Yasen’s specs. 199 meters?? No way, that is even longer than Typhoon class.
Agreed , the semi-official shipbuilding.ru quotes the Yasen stastics as
Official characteristics of the Yasen project (NATO▓s reporting name GRANAY) are: displacement – 9.500 / 11.800 tons, length √ 120m, beam √ 15m, draught √ 10m, submarine speed √ 31 knots, crew- 85, endurance √ 100 days, depth.
So it is 119 m not 199 m , may be some typo :p
By: Austin - 25th July 2009 at 10:08
Surprises me that there aren’t any nice pics at all of the Yasen right now 🙁
Kazan ceremony pics…. Kazan seems to be of improved Yasen type ( pic credit via secretprojects )
By: snake65 - 25th July 2009 at 10:07
The ONLY reliable picture of Yasen right now:D
By: Nicolas - 25th July 2009 at 10:07
Another Report
Second Yasen-M ( Kazan ) to be laid on July 24th
http://www.rosprom.org/inf.php3?glav=1
Underwater displacement boat project «Ash» – 13600 tons, the maximum length – 199 meters, width – 13.5 meters, depth – 9,4 m, speed – 31 knot, the crew – 90 people. Вооружение: 650 мм и 533 мм пусковые аппараты торпед, ракеты П-800 «Оникс», Х-35, Х-101, ЗМ-54Э, ЗМ-54Э1 «корабль-корабль», ЗМ-14Э «корабль-земля». Armament: 650 mm and 533 mm torpedo launchers vehicles, missiles P-800 «Onyx», X-35, X-101, ЗМ-54E, ЗМ-54E1 «ship-ship», ЗМ-14E «ship-to-ground».
Bad article, cant trust anything about the Yasen’s specs. 199 meters?? No way, that is even longer than Typhoon class.
If the class is fitted with aft of the bow torpedotubes i doubt they will have both 65 and 53 cm. If you have VLS cells there is no need for the 65cm for launching Stallion.
Do they have 65 cm torpedoes in service?
No need to list all the antiship and land attack missiles in russian inventory, there is just no info about missile published yet. It will most likely be fitted with only one of them. One antiship and one LACM.
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