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Ryan-be-fair

There has been a website set up by the International Transport Workers Federation recently to protect the rights of workers at Ryanair. It is a place where employees can have their freedom of speech, and talk about their company to other employees in the same postion as them. It seems as though MOL isn’t going to be too impressed, but he has no rights to put a stop to it. He’ll just have to sit back and hope that what does get mentioned, isn’t exagerated by people such as the Tabloid’s.

A good idea in my opinion, what do you think?

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By: Ren Frew - 28th September 2004 at 21:00

Ryanair are not there to make it glamorous for the staff, they are in business to make money.

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Maybe so kev but IMO browbeating and exploiting ones staff is childsplay, managing them well, keeping them happy and productive, thats the art. I believe its called “Man management”

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By: Ren Frew - 28th September 2004 at 21:00

Ryanair are not there to make it glamorous for the staff, they are in business to make money.

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Maybe so kev but IMO browbeating and exploiting ones staff is childsplay, managing them well, keeping them happy and productive, thats the art. I believe its called “Man management”

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By: MSR777 - 28th September 2004 at 20:48

Ryanair are not there to make it glamorous for the staff, they are in business to make money.

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Maybe so kev but IMO browbeating and exploiting ones staff is childsplay, managing them well, keeping them happy and productive, thats the art. I believe its called “Man management”

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By: MSR777 - 28th September 2004 at 20:48

Ryanair are not there to make it glamorous for the staff, they are in business to make money.

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Maybe so kev but IMO browbeating and exploiting ones staff is childsplay, managing them well, keeping them happy and productive, thats the art. I believe its called “Man management”

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By: mongu - 28th September 2004 at 19:28

Exactly Kev.

So what if Ryanair are a bit mean to their staff? It is their perogative.

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By: mongu - 28th September 2004 at 19:28

Exactly Kev.

So what if Ryanair are a bit mean to their staff? It is their perogative.

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By: kev35 - 28th September 2004 at 18:58

Very interesting. Are Ryanair as bad as they are made out to be? I don’t know. I’ve flown Ryanair once and the cabin crew were friendly, courteous and helpful. As for their working conditions? Well, I didn’t altogether understand the following….

“Apparently, we are the face of the company but we are constantly being slapped in it! We work six day weeks, averaging on ten hours a day, no breaks, no perks (as many think we have) and only two days off. Ryanair have taken the glamour out of flying – we are physically and mentally wrecked. Of course by our sixth morning being at work at 5.30 we’re are not as “on the ball” as we would be on our second morning – we have no choice, it’s like we’re under a compliment to Ryanair for giving us a job. If passengers think they’re treated badly by Ryanair, we’re treated worse.”

-Cabin Crew, Ireland”

Six day weeks with two days off? how does that one work? Or are they talking about twelve day fortnights? If the latter that is bad.

Ten hour shifts aren’t that bad, they’re not on their feet all that time. Try a ten or twelve hour shift in an NHS hospital. As for choice, yes you do have one. Exercise that choice if yopu wish. I thought it was illegal to bar trade unions but apparently not. So, if Ryanair staff have a genuine grievance exercise that choice but do it en masse. Every Ryanair worker refusing to work on a certain day would do a lot to change management’s views would it not? But you would all have to act collectively.

Ryanair are not there to make it glamorous for the staff, they are in business to make money.

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By: kev35 - 28th September 2004 at 18:58

Very interesting. Are Ryanair as bad as they are made out to be? I don’t know. I’ve flown Ryanair once and the cabin crew were friendly, courteous and helpful. As for their working conditions? Well, I didn’t altogether understand the following….

“Apparently, we are the face of the company but we are constantly being slapped in it! We work six day weeks, averaging on ten hours a day, no breaks, no perks (as many think we have) and only two days off. Ryanair have taken the glamour out of flying – we are physically and mentally wrecked. Of course by our sixth morning being at work at 5.30 we’re are not as “on the ball” as we would be on our second morning – we have no choice, it’s like we’re under a compliment to Ryanair for giving us a job. If passengers think they’re treated badly by Ryanair, we’re treated worse.”

-Cabin Crew, Ireland”

Six day weeks with two days off? how does that one work? Or are they talking about twelve day fortnights? If the latter that is bad.

Ten hour shifts aren’t that bad, they’re not on their feet all that time. Try a ten or twelve hour shift in an NHS hospital. As for choice, yes you do have one. Exercise that choice if yopu wish. I thought it was illegal to bar trade unions but apparently not. So, if Ryanair staff have a genuine grievance exercise that choice but do it en masse. Every Ryanair worker refusing to work on a certain day would do a lot to change management’s views would it not? But you would all have to act collectively.

Ryanair are not there to make it glamorous for the staff, they are in business to make money.

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By: SHAMROCK321 - 28th September 2004 at 17:47

Im not biased.I was at one stage a great ryanair fan but now I prefer normal airlines.However its a stupid site and anyone can post there not just Ryanair staff.

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By: SHAMROCK321 - 28th September 2004 at 17:47

Im not biased.I was at one stage a great ryanair fan but now I prefer normal airlines.However its a stupid site and anyone can post there not just Ryanair staff.

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By: MSR777 - 28th September 2004 at 17:43

I have to agree with you martin. I worked for many years in close proximity to Ryanair and its staff and I did not envy them one bit. Its very easy to be blinkered by propaganda in this scenario. Anyone who thinks that Ryanair is an airborne miracle should talk to the staff and crews, but I do realise that if you are outside the industry thats not always possible.

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By: MSR777 - 28th September 2004 at 17:43

I have to agree with you martin. I worked for many years in close proximity to Ryanair and its staff and I did not envy them one bit. Its very easy to be blinkered by propaganda in this scenario. Anyone who thinks that Ryanair is an airborne miracle should talk to the staff and crews, but I do realise that if you are outside the industry thats not always possible.

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By: danairboy - 28th September 2004 at 12:14

At least the pilots ‘sit up front’ the cabin crew seem to prefer the lavatory!

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By: danairboy - 28th September 2004 at 12:14

At least the pilots ‘sit up front’ the cabin crew seem to prefer the lavatory!

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By: martin_EGTK - 28th September 2004 at 12:09

Shamrock, you have posted yet another biased and completely uneducated post. I know several guys who are in the right hand seat at Ryanair and they are having a dreadful time of it, many of them are saying they’d rather be back at Oxford Aviation flying Seneca V’s without being paid as opposed to being paid a pittance, being given no respect, no stable roster and being messed about every hour of every day. The Ryanair staff are really having an awful time of it and I recommend you step away from you’re Michael O’Leary propaganda and look at the situation as it really is.

Ask any of the guys actually in the industry or in training and you will be told exactly how good Ryanair really are.

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By: martin_EGTK - 28th September 2004 at 12:09

Shamrock, you have posted yet another biased and completely uneducated post. I know several guys who are in the right hand seat at Ryanair and they are having a dreadful time of it, many of them are saying they’d rather be back at Oxford Aviation flying Seneca V’s without being paid as opposed to being paid a pittance, being given no respect, no stable roster and being messed about every hour of every day. The Ryanair staff are really having an awful time of it and I recommend you step away from you’re Michael O’Leary propaganda and look at the situation as it really is.

Ask any of the guys actually in the industry or in training and you will be told exactly how good Ryanair really are.

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By: MSR777 - 27th September 2004 at 19:15

Isn’t it very sad that in this day and age that a site such as that should be necessary. IMO it speaks volumes about that organization and those who “run” it. As I’ve said before a good indicator of this lots long term prospects for survival will be the world price for fuel……..keep watching!

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By: MSR777 - 27th September 2004 at 19:15

Isn’t it very sad that in this day and age that a site such as that should be necessary. IMO it speaks volumes about that organization and those who “run” it. As I’ve said before a good indicator of this lots long term prospects for survival will be the world price for fuel……..keep watching!

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By: MANAIRPORTMAD - 27th September 2004 at 19:00

Im sure you’re just saying that because you ‘adore’ them, am i right?

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By: MANAIRPORTMAD - 27th September 2004 at 19:00

Im sure you’re just saying that because you ‘adore’ them, am i right?

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