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Ryanair to go long haul with 787

Basicly says Ryanair will go long haul with the 787 from London (STN), Glasgow (PIK) and Birmingham.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/3067643/Ryanair-plots-transatlantic-price-war.html

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By: alangirvan01 - 6th October 2008 at 08:15

One of the alternatives for New York would be Stewart, though it seems like a long trip from there to NY City – would it be 90 minutes from door of airport to a hotel in NY City?

Then Portsmouth might be an alternative for Boston, though you cannot say it worked for Skybus. Then, maybe Melbourne, FL as an alternative to either of the Orlando area airports. All three of these airports might work for Ryan is suitable bus links are organised.

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By: Bmused55 - 5th October 2008 at 11:50

The part is rather obvious:

Not only is Singapore not in business of providing those services – Singapore first advertised their R class with suggestive pictures like this:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Singapore-Airlines/Airbus-A380-841/1289833/L/

what do you think those rose petals are supposed to imply?

and, after cashing in large sums of money from ticket buyers, announced that they were strictly forbidden from providing those and similar services to each other!

That quote is not in the news article. It is a post from this forum.

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By: Ren Frew - 4th October 2008 at 15:09

I wonder when they say New York, they mean a provincial airport within a 5 hour drive of New York :p

I rarther suspect that may be the case… Perhaps Newark or La Guardia could come into play here ? Fly Globespan for example advertise flights to Toronto, when in fact they go to Hamilton, Ontario.

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By: cheesebag - 4th October 2008 at 13:22

I wonder when they say New York, they mean a provincial airport within a 5 hour drive of New York :p

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By: Arabella-Cox - 4th October 2008 at 13:20

Some of the services MOL described did not have a German translation – Ryan would need cabins similar to Singapore A380s R Class if those will be providedl

I think this was refering to a joke that MOL made about BJ’s…

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By: chornedsnorkack - 4th October 2008 at 12:21

I do not see anything in that article to support your post.

Can you please explain.

The part is rather obvious:

Some of the services MOL described did not have a German translation – Ryan would need cabins similar to Singapore A380s R Class if those will be providedl

Not only is Singapore not in business of providing those services – Singapore first advertised their R class with suggestive pictures like this:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Singapore-Airlines/Airbus-A380-841/1289833/L/

what do you think those rose petals are supposed to imply?

and, after cashing in large sums of money from ticket buyers, announced that they were strictly forbidden from providing those and similar services to each other!

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By: Ren Frew - 4th October 2008 at 12:14

Quite so.

I’m pretty sure that Continental B757s, for instance, don’t have such ‘decadently furnished cabins’, and yet they seem to be successful on Transatlantic routes.

Not to mention the number of 757’s plying the north atlantic routes to the UK in the colours of American, Delta, US Airlines, Thomas Cook etc etc… Why I wouldn’t be surprised if Boeing put the 757 back into production, let’s drop the Dreamliner and bring back the ‘Pondliner’. 😀 That said, I still prefer a twin aisle aircraft on such rouutes, I like a walk up the aisles every so often to allieviate the monotony…;)

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By: Bmused55 - 3rd October 2008 at 17:20

Yes. This is all what Ryanair needs to offer. But it is not what they said they will offer.

I do not see anything in that article to support your post.

Can you please explain.

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By: chornedsnorkack - 3rd October 2008 at 17:00

Why? They won’t be serving the fiercely competitive markets Singapore does, so have no need for decadently furnished cabins dripping with polished wood and shiney metal.

We’re talking Trans Atlantic, not UK-Asia/Middle East.

For Trans Pond under the Ryanair brand, all they need for a business class is a reasonably quiet, comfortable cabin with a good price tag and service. People will get what they pay for.

Yes. This is all what Ryanair needs to offer. But it is not what they said they will offer.

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By: Scouse - 3rd October 2008 at 09:48

From the original Daily Telegraph report:

In the short term, Ryanair expects to offer passengers the chance to make mobile phones on some of its aircraft from next month.

Well, that’s one way of keeping them out of mischief!

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By: Grey Area - 3rd October 2008 at 08:20

Why? They won’t be serving the fiercely competitive markets Singapore does, so have no need for decadently furnished cabins dripping with polished wood and shiney metal.

We’re talking Trans Atlantic, not UK-Asia/Middle East.

For Trans Pond under the Ryanair brand, all they need for a business class is a reasonably quiet, comfortable cabin with a good price tag and service. People will get what they pay for.

Quite so.

I’m pretty sure that Continental B757s, for instance, don’t have such ‘decadently furnished cabins’, and yet they seem to be successful on Transatlantic routes.

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By: Bmused55 - 3rd October 2008 at 07:56

Ryan would need cabins similar to Singapore A380s R Class if those will be provided

Why? They won’t be serving the fiercely competitive markets Singapore does, so have no need for decadently furnished cabins dripping with polished wood and shiney metal.

We’re talking Trans Atlantic, not UK-Asia/Middle East.

For Trans Pond under the Ryanair brand, all they need for a business class is a reasonably quiet, comfortable cabin with a good price tag and service. People will get what they pay for.

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By: Grey Area - 3rd October 2008 at 07:04

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By: Jennings - 3rd October 2008 at 05:47

You’re kidding, right?

If the composite carbuncle ever gets off the ground that is….;)

Only the most successful new airliner ever. Period. In all of history. Ever. Nah, I can see Boeing chucking it into the Duwamish River. It’ll never fly.

(and oh, btw, it’s going to beat the ever loving pants off of anything Scarebus ever thought about doing).

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By: Arabella-Cox - 29th September 2008 at 19:22

Well seems to be linked to their idea of an Air Lingus Takeover, using some of their aircraft initially. How long before they fly in the USA?

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By: cloud_9 - 28th September 2008 at 23:59

…but with the loss of that low frills carrier (forgot their name)…
Bill

That would be OASiS Hong Kong Airlines…:)

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By: bkonner - 28th September 2008 at 19:36

They may be able to pull it off

Howdy,

I can see them doing well in cities like Providence, RI, Hartford, CT, Baltimore, and Ft. Lauderdale, FL. Certainly they will not fly to Boston, New York, or Washington, DC. In the West Coast I could see them doing Oakland, CA and that may work well too. In the Midwest Milwaukee and St. Louis could be targets. There are lots of smaller cities that are not served. There are also some large markets like St. Louis without service at all to Europe.

Providence would be a good city for them because they have the huge Boston market nearby including the southern and south western suburbs. and about two million people living on Cape Cod, south eastern Massachusetts, Rhode Island and parts of Connecticut. Right now the only option they have is Boston or driving 200 miles down to New York.

Hartford lost its Northwest service to Amsterdam. So Hartford would be a real option for them.

Milwaukee and St. Louis want service to Europe badly. I could see them getting some money from both cities or states. If they move into St. Louis this may force American Airlines to consider restarting their old TWA routes to Gatwick.

It will be interesting to see how they deal with charging for luggage and food. Now that most American and Canadian carriers are charging for bags, the public is now for the most part use to it. I hope it happens. We need more low fare carriers in the US and Canada; Canada particularly. Although the problem with Canada is where would they fly too as Ryan does not like to fly to major cities. So Toronto certainly would be tough for them. Buffalo, New York might be an option (not sure about US Customs). I can now see them advertising their Toronto flights to Buffallo, Ontario :eek:? Even for them that would be a tough one.

But this is just America. I am not certain about rights to Hong Kong, but with the loss of that low frills carrier (forgot their name), that may be a market for them too.
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By: alertken - 28th September 2008 at 11:08

Freddie Laker, Skytrain, £99 one way LGW-Newark, 1980s, water, coffee, everything extra, mustered through a tent to avoid terminal charges.

Air Siam with ACMI EI 747-100, HKG/BKK-LGW 1974, lastminute auction at terminal – how much you wanna pay? Cash taken by EI’s lease administrator T.Ryan.

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By: alangirvan01 - 28th September 2008 at 04:48

Long haul LCC is already being done out of Australia, so Ryanair are not inventing anything new.

Basic low fare, then pre-pay for in flight meals, pre-pay for IFE, and pre-pay for a comfort kit. Airlines here have picked up Ryan’s idea of charging to check bags – I wonder if the same deal of letting you carry on board 10kg of hand luggage will still apply on long haul

When MOL did his famous press conference, about all the extras, he made it clear that Ryanair will have a Business Class, and it will cost a lot to fly in it. Some of the services MOL described did not have a German translation – Ryan would need cabins similar to Singapore A380s R Class if those will be providedl

Wonder if that is what Zoom needed? If Zoom had used 30 Business Class seats would they still be in business?

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By: Ren Frew - 25th September 2008 at 23:04

Agreed. Zoom did it for £130 one way I think, but that was too much for me. Hopefully FR can bring transatlantic travel to the masses.

Hmmm….. extra large cans of Pringles… ? :confused:

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