April 13, 2003 at 5:56 pm
I’m just back from TFN via BCN with Iberia.
If the trip was uneventful , I have been stupified by Iberia’s safety.
No passport check nor any kind of ID and X-ray checking is minimized.
As far as I know Spain was part of the cohalition in Iraq and they might expect some retaliation from ismalic extremists.
These “safety” rules are nowadays unacceptable.
I will post some pics later.
By: Hand87_5 - 15th April 2003 at 14:54
AF asks for an ID for both domestic and international.
This checking occurs at check-in and an other time just before bording.
UA at CDG :
ID check at X-ray before check-in.
Luggage search at the same stage.
ID check at check in.
ID and boarding pass check when moving to the satellite.
ID check at the Police check point.
ID and boarding pass check at Hand luggage X-ray check point
ID and boarding pass check at bording gate.
ID and barding pass check again at the gate of the plane.
Boy , if you are a terrorist , it’s hard to make it !!!
By: T5 - 15th April 2003 at 00:37
John F Kennedy was incredibly thorough with their security checks last November. It was 5:30am and we were all extremely tired, having to do various things in order to prove we weren’t terrorists! I got through no problem, but my sister bleeped, so they used a hand scanner to check her, but no result. They couldn’t feel anything concealed on her, so they passed her through the detector again – still bleeping. Next, they asked her to remove her shoes, X-Rayed them, banged them on the table and then disappeared with them. After about 5 minutes without her shoes, my sister became a little agitated and went, bare-footed, in search of her shoes! They also requested that she empty her vanity case as it was cluttered and items could not be made out on screen when x-rayed.
At Bologna in February, I just laughed! The detector bleeped as I passed through and the dim-witted security man just patted my legs and let me go. BA2563 might never have made it home that night. At least, it wouldn’t have if I had a gun up my top!!
I think Heathrow has just about got it cracked, apart from these TV reporters who constantly test them with their toy guns and manicure sets and then brag when they get it onto an aircraft. Security People: Next time, look out for the man passing through security with a TV camera following him!
Gatwick is good for security. They now have 2 security checks in place and if you smuggle goods through the first, you can be about 90% sure they won’t make it through the second. My dad had an argument with a security man who accused my mum of deliberately smuggling nail clippers on board… lol!
Montego Bay (Sangster) is reasonable. They go at their own pace, but seem to have effective methods of preventing unauthorised items getting onto the aircraft.
By: greekdude1 - 15th April 2003 at 00:26
They’re pretty strict in the U.S. and Australia. In the U.S., even on domestic flights, you have to show some form of I.D.(drivers’ license, passport, etc.) when you present your boarding pass at the gate.
By: dan330 - 14th April 2003 at 21:32
Very strange not to check your passports for International flights. Mind you saying that whenever I’ve travelled within the EU (Including Lanzarote last week) none of the Imigration people seem to care much at any airport!
They basically have a (very) faint look at your photo and wave you past, nobody has checked any more than that anywhere, either departing or arriving.
By: Mark L - 14th April 2003 at 20:01
Hmm, last time I was in Barcelona which was the July of last year, they were immensely thorough with security. We were a party of 30, and they searched every one of us, and checked all our passports at least twice.
We didn’t look that suspicious I didn’t think!
By: mongu - 14th April 2003 at 19:07
That is really shocking. The lack of x-raying is equally as bad.
I tell you what…
Why not start a campagin encouraging passengers to sue airlines for “breach of due care” whenever they spot obvious and stupid security breaches? At the very least, it would mean a database is established which would enable a law suit the next time there is a terrorist attack, because it might be possible to demonstrate that a particular airline kind of invited the disaster.
Hopefully we will see Darwinian selection take place as weaker airlines go bust!
By: Hand87_5 - 14th April 2003 at 17:24
That’s right. The most amazing is that’s both TFN or BCN seem to have a lot of staff. It doesn’t cost anything to check ID’s when checking in or/AND boarding.
EVEN AF does it !!!
By: MINIDOH - 14th April 2003 at 11:11
Thats bad. I have flown on Iberia many times and normally it has been quite thorough. Having said that, depending on the airport counts alot too, specially in spain. The spanish cant be bothered to check sometimes, again thats bad!!
By: Hand87_5 - 14th April 2003 at 08:31
You’re right Dan but for the leg from and to ORY which wasn’t domestic , they didn’t require any passport nor ID either !!!
By: dan330 - 13th April 2003 at 21:18
You won’t get passport checks on domestic flights, but I’m surprised they didn’t ask for some sort of ID.
Isn’t this the airports problem though as oposed to Iberia?
By: mongu - 13th April 2003 at 18:30
Well done Hand, it’s time someone joined my crusade to convince people security is complete rubbish these days!
By: KabirT - 13th April 2003 at 18:02
Hmmm never expected that from Iberia. These kind of lapses are the oens which make it easy for hijackers, and post 9/11 still you see these kind of scenes.