Sally B on Radio 4 this morning

Thank you for the clarification.

How are the French operators of “Pink Lady” affected by this Directive?

Or is France implementing it differently?

Eric – I expect the French are implementing it differently – they usually do, don’t they!

However, the noises coming from the Pink Lady folks are not optimistic. They too fear this may be their last season. And, as things stand at the moment, it is looking less likely that Pink Lady will be allowed into UK for the big flypast over Buck House on 10 July – that is, unless the insurance thing can be sorted.

However, let’s not give up – let’s lobby our new MPs for all we’re worth, and give whatever we can to Sally B in the meantime.
www.sallyb.org.uk

Thanks for all the support.

Sean Maffett
AirSound Commentator
for B-17 Preservation

www.sallyb.org.uk
www.airsound.co.uk

Why should Lowestoft’s show suffer a gap when they can fill it? What do you want them to do, hold a ten minute silence?

Damien , I never suggested anyone should leave any gaps as you ignorantly quote,just a little more sympathy for the operators wouldn’t have hurt .
They just couldn’t really care less about Sally B’s plight and I suggest if you want to adopt the attitude you have, put your hand in your pocket and contribute towards the ‘free’ show that the locals are constantly being hassled to pay for.Get YOUR sorry a**e over to Lowestoft and put your cash in the collection buckets that most spectators seem to avoid, so that people from all over Norfolk and Suffolk can come and watch for free.Put your money where your big mouth is !!!
My feeling is that if the organisers cant find a way of making it pay without continually begging to the locals then cancel it.
I pay good money to go to the airshows of my choice, and have done for thirty years.If those freeloaders who come to Lowestoft once a year to take advantage of a free show put their hands in their pockets then maybe the operators might find it all a little less difficult.

Steve964

It might be of interest to look at the thread below on a French forum. I think the problem is the same over there.
http://www.foxalpha.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5142
With luck and an awful lot of public support we may find the exemption route possible.
Cheers,
Trapper 69

Thank you for the clarification.

How are the French operators of “Pink Lady” affected by this Directive?

Or is France implementing it differently?

EC Regulation 785/2004, which came in on 1 May 2005, requires that aircraft in Band 6 (Sally B and, for instance, the Embraer 190 110-seat airliner) have third party cover for 80million SDR (Special Drawing Rights), or roughly £68million sterling.

B-17 Preservation (Sally B’s operators) ought be able to get a competitive insurance quote based on the risks of this cover, but actually there is no competition. Virtually all aviation insurance in Britain (and probably the rest of Europe as well) comes back to one desk at Lloyds, no matter who the broker is.

B-17 Preservation have been working on this for some time, but have not achieved any success so far. However, we are optimistic that we will find a fix to get Sally B airborne again in time for her annual Memorial day flypast at the American Cemetery at Madingley near Cambridge, and then for the national celebrations of the 60th anniversary of the end of the Second World War, when she is due to fly over Buckingham Palace in a big formation on 10 July.

If we fail, she may never fly again in Britain. Even if we succeed, getting her airborne again is just the first step. We need to sort out the whole problem satisfactorily, or she will not be able to continue into the 2006 season in Britain.

So, anything you can do – especially right now giving some money, no matter how little – will help us towards that first step. As you know, the website is
www.sallyb.org.uk

And, of course, the other thing you can do is make as big, and as public a fuss about this as possible – including lobbying your new MP, or writing to the papers or the broadcasters. All of this is covered on the website. There will also be a petition to sign soon – you may already have seen it at Duxford this weekend.

Thanks for all your help – we really need it now, more than ever.

Incidentally, it was me that you heard on Radio 4 ‘Today’ (if you did!), and it has resulted in a huge amount of support, but there is one problem. When we tried to get the national tv companies (as opposed to regional) to follow it up, they said that an appearance on ‘Today’ is now considered the peak of a story, and unless the story moves on, they don’t want to follow it…… Sometimes I give up. But not for long.

Sean Maffett
AirSound Commentator
For B-17 Preservation

www.airsound.co.uk —

But it’s not “Legislation” as such. It’s based on an EU Directive which can be amended by member countries as they see fit.

If you wan’t to blame anyone, blame the CAA.

Digby,
“The fuss” is that Sally B is tangled up in EU insurance regulations that are only meant to affect medium sized commercial aircraft (eg Boeing 737,A320 etc),the difference being that airlines can charge an extra few pennies a seat to cover costs. No such luxury for Sally B,she can’t carry passengers and the fact remains that the legislation was never meant to affect her in the first place.

That aircraft is not the only one that has to pay insurance so what is all the fuss about?

I think the comment was meant as a bit of an ‘Oh well’ rather than emphasis on how unique Sally B is.

Why do I get the feeling that she wil be grounded for some time… 🙁

Sorry if ive missed this but where do these new ‘regulations’ (don’t remember these going through parliment?) leave the Vulcan to the sky project?

I do hope Sally B can get sorted out, this year of all years. Cant the USAF run her in a similar way to BBMF run the Lanc?

Im visiting Duxford on Sunday and will be sure to pay the stand a visit. The whole thing is so frustrating im struggleing to containmy anger 😡

Sally B on look east

I saw the news article highlighting the insurance problems surrounding Sally B on look east the other night.
There was also a very small piece in yesterdays Eastern Daily Press,
It really iritates me that they go to a load of trouble to report these problems ,highlight them on the programme etc,and then miss out the details that really matter like, for instance, that it will cost an EXTRA £1000 per hour to fly ,and not just £1000 per hour as quoted.I reckon people who don’t know, won’t really care if it cost £1000 per hour because thats not much for such a big aircraft,so why are the operators complaining ???
Then to finish the article good old Lowestoft seafront airshow organisers helped out by saying they would just get another act to fill the slot ,very helpful and sympathetic to Sally B ‘s plight ,I think not .

Steve 964

Would that be noises from Sally B’s engines 😀 or from her supporters?

Stuart

I thought she was the traffic totty on Radio 2!! 😀

Seriously, good news – the wider the publicity, the better and hopefully noises witll be made at Duxford at the weekend.

You can hear the report by using the “listen again” facility.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/listenagain/index.shtml

Scroll down the running order to 07.42 am.

Many, many thanks for that.

A good example of how (touching on the ‘this forum’ thread) the forum is so very useful !!

😀

You can hear the report by using the “listen again” facility.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/listenagain/index.shtml

Scroll down the running order to 07.42 am.

The BBC’s Look East regional TV news programme had Sally B as thier headline story at 6pm last night. Good to see her plight getting the publicity it richly deserves!

Wish i’d been listening. I must admit that I don’t know much about the insurance industry but if it is like many others, it will be dominated by some very large US corporations. Would one of these not be interested in providing the insurance in some sort of sponsorship deal / charitable donation?
Considering the profits of some of these financial institutions, it would be a drop in the ocean and the least that they could do to give something back. Good PR as well.

Stuart