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Save a Basset

Not sure if everyone would agree but there’s currently a Basset parked up at Biggin Hill airfield, which should be saved and displayed in a museum in the UK. The aircraft in question is N181WW/XS773 which would make a worthy addition to Hendon’s collection, or even Cosford’s collection. Unfortunately |I have made a number of contacts with the Cosford museum and their response so far has been one of disinterested. :apologetic:

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By: Consul - 1st December 2015 at 21:06

No problem – You certainly have a point. To the majority of the general public a Spitfire is just a Spitfire (and to many a Hurricane is another Spitfire). But minutiae, including the differences between different marks of that iconic type, are often discussed on these pages by those who are interested. Evidently Beagle B.206 detail doesn’t have the same appeal. 🙂

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By: J Boyle - 1st December 2015 at 20:35

Of course you’re welcome to your opinion, but I believe highlighting the distinction is worth mentioning, as this is not just about the name. There are physical differences between the B.206 Srs. 1 (which the MAM aircraft is) and the production Basset. For example they differ in wingspan, power plants and the door size etc.

Tim

Don’t take my comment personally, I appreciate the exactness,but many here don’t see the distinction.
Also, I’d wager the OP would be happy to see a B.206 saved even if it wasn’t ex-RAF.

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By: Consul - 1st December 2015 at 19:12

While I agree with being specific, that’s pretty close to being a pedant.
How many people on this forum call all DC-3s/C-47s Dakotas whether or not they operated with the RAF or Commonwealth?

Of course you’re welcome to your opinion, but I believe highlighting the distinction is worth mentioning, as this is not just about the name. There are physical differences between the B.206 Srs. 1 (which the MAM aircraft is) and the production Basset. For example they differ in wingspan, power plants and the door size etc.

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By: farnboroughrob - 1st December 2015 at 18:15

While I agree with being specific, that’s pretty close to being a pedant.
How many people on this forum call all DC-3s/C-47s Dakotas whether or not they operated with the RAF or Commonwealth?

or C-53, or R4D! If its in the present day they are all Daks to be but historically I agree.

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By: J Boyle - 1st December 2015 at 18:08

Not correct I’m afraid, the MAM doesn’t have a Basset. They have Beagle B.206 Series 1 G-ASWJ.
Tim

While I agree with being specific, that’s pretty close to being a pedant.
How many people on this forum call all DC-3s/C-47s Dakotas whether or not they operated with the RAF or Commonwealth?

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By: RPSmith - 1st December 2015 at 11:17

Thanks Spey – I’d obviously got the wrong specs on yesterday 🙂 The only one I got right (which you got a bit wrong) was, as Consul points out, the 206 at Baginton.

Roger Smith.

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By: Zac Yates - 1st December 2015 at 03:14

I though XS743 was being used as an instructional airframe? Or am I (hopefully) mistaken?

Also, I’m 100% with David Burke on his first two comments – has anyone contact the owner/s for their view/plans?

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By: Consul - 30th November 2015 at 20:59

… As correctly stated there is a Basset at the Midland Air Museum, Coventry …

Not correct I’m afraid, the MAM doesn’t have a Basset. They have Beagle B.206 Series 1 G-ASWJ. This was operated by Rolls-Royce until being withdrawn from flying in 1975. I think confusion about it being a Basset has arisen because this example was then used by the RAF at Halton as an instructional aid marked 8449M.

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By: Spey111 - 30th November 2015 at 19:23

I dont think there is an example with the Boscombe Down Aviation Collection but there is XS743 at Boscombe Down which retired last year with XS770/G-HRHI used as a spares source which came from Cranfield. The 206 which was at Brooklands was about twenty years ago before moving to Kemble, then Shoreham and is now displayed at the FAST Museum, Farnborough. This is G-ARRM. The Bristol Aero Collection which was at Kemble now at Filton also have the cockpit section of G-ATDD which used to be in the Science Museum. As correctly stated there is a Basset at the Midland Air Museum, Coventry

http://www.planepictures.net/xsearch.cgi?lo-srng=1&lo-srch=&pg-srng=1&pg-srch=ian+haskell&al-srng=1&al-srch=&ac-srng=1&ac-srch=beagle+206&rg-srng=1&rg-srch=&co-srng=1&co-srch=&offset=0&srt=a&ord=descending

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By: David Burke - 30th November 2015 at 18:28

‘There is a Basset CC1 with the Boscombe Down Aviation Collection’ -is there ? Which one?

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By: AlanR - 30th November 2015 at 16:30

There is a Basset CC1 with the Boscombe Down Aviation Collection and examples of the 206 at Brooklands and the Midland Air Museum.

Roger Smith.

Thank you Roger

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By: RPSmith - 30th November 2015 at 15:08

There is a Basset CC1 with the Boscombe Down Aviation Collection and examples of the 206 at Brooklands and the Midland Air Museum.

Roger Smith.

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By: David Burke - 30th November 2015 at 11:03

‘Also why on earth did they not keep one of the Queens Flight Herons? ‘

John Beattie tried to get the FAAM to take on the former Queens Flight Sea Heron . Sadly it didn’t happen and its now after a good while in America moved to Bolivia.
From recall that is the only Queens Flight machine that is still a Heron.

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By: David Burke - 30th November 2015 at 10:59

Texas Air Museum at Slaton have one on display.

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By: AlanR - 30th November 2015 at 10:24

A bizarre way of looking at the preservation of our heritage: presumably the sort of thinking which resulted in all our WW1 aircraft individual RFC record cards being binned. It might have seemed like they had ‘limited appeal’ at the time, but many curse that decision in wise hindsight.

Thank goodness that zoos don’t follow the same ‘logic’.

A “bizarre” comparison, but hey ho, who am I to argue ?

As I asked, how many museums have a Basset on display ?

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By: AMB - 30th November 2015 at 10:22

If both Cosford (and Hendon) took a more pro-active part in trying to preserve one of each RAF aircraft type as it was withdrawn, they would not have to paint civilian aircraft up masquerading as ‘RAF’ aircraft. I refer to the Britannia at Cosford. Also why on earth did they not keep one of the Queens Flight Herons? The Basset is a small aircraft and wouldn’t take up too much room, so should definately have a place at either Cosford or Hendon.

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By: charliehunt - 30th November 2015 at 08:51

Interesting exchanges. I think I have had more pleasure from museums generally in discovering and learning about subjects I had little interest in or knowledge of prior to my visit.

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By: Sabrejet - 30th November 2015 at 05:40

I am merely pointing out that an aircraft such as the Basset, might have limited appeal to the public in general.

A bizarre way of looking at the preservation of our heritage: presumably the sort of thinking which resulted in all our WW1 aircraft individual RFC record cards being binned. It might have seemed like they had ‘limited appeal’ at the time, but many curse that decision in wise hindsight.

Thank goodness that zoos don’t follow the same ‘logic’.

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By: David Burke - 30th November 2015 at 02:08

It might be worth contacting the owner first to see what his intentions are !

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By: J Boyle - 30th November 2015 at 01:16

I’m always in favor of saving a basset, in fact, this afternoon I was at a fundraiser for the Basset Rescue organization.

Is there a General Aviation (Light Aviation) themed museum somewhere in case the RAF doesn’t want it?

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