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By: Bmused55 - 14th October 2003 at 06:39

If any petition should be made, it needs to be against airbus.
Theyare one of the main reasons BA must retire Concorde as well as what I highlighted above.

Since AF retired theire to due costs, Airbus have turned round and said they refuse to make special parts just for 6 aircraft.
With no aircraft parts, you have no spares. AF and future owners of the AF concorde fleet refuse to allow BA to canabalise their retired aircraft.
So, what can BA do?! With no parts they cannot run the aircraft.
The Parts stock went down to low levels i the last few years.
Hell, an air france concorde has been flying for month with a BA Tail rudder!!

Yes, Concorde was a triumph of European design, something the americans, or anyone else could get close to. Concorde was the only SST that commercially made money. Air France and Ba only eeded 30 odd pax per plane to make a profit! but of late, they’ve been struggling to even get into the teens of Pax.
That, compounded with the dilema that no more parts will soon be available has forced her retirement.
This wasn’t a decision by BA management just to Cheese people offlike this petition suggests… it was a safety decision.
Infact, BA wanted to keep her running untill at least 2010.

They have spent a lot of money overhauling their fleet to meet the new safety requirements after F-BTSC crashed. And there’s about £12.5 millon worth of new interior sitting in boxes at heathrow for the Concorde. A refurbishment that was planned for the winter, when pax numbers are usually lower.
But, after all that is said, one fact remains:
You can’t run a fleet of aircraft without spare parts!

Thats the Main reason folks.

Also. G-BOAG is the heaviest Concorde in the BA fleet. Due to repairs made after a heavy landing, somewhere in the middle east. Consequently she’s the most expensive to run, thats why she was in storage for years.

G-BOAC would be a nice touch, to keep her flying, but she’ll need a big cash injection to get her airworthy. That is, if its possible at all.

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By: LGWboy - 14th October 2003 at 05:07

I hope Airbus accept a deal, sounds good!

Be nice to see one do a few low flypasts at airshows.

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By: A330Crazy - 14th October 2003 at 04:40

Just to let you all know….

G-BOAG is being fought for! Airshow organisers are meeting with Airbus to construct a deal on keeping AG in the air to preform at airshows.

Id rather it preform in airshows than be stuck out in Barbados, or on the ground!

I still think that at least 1 will be kept flying no matter what.

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By: monster500 - 14th October 2003 at 01:34

by the time concorde stops flying this petition will have about 1000 signatures, present that to BA and they will laugh in your face and tell you that concorde doesnt even have 1000px a fortnight.

people who put these things together have no idea of the reality of the situation, it costs BA a fortune to keep that a/c flying, and your supposed to foresake a companies profits for the public who want to photograph the aircraft.

its had its time, let it bow out gracefuly

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By: steve rowell - 14th October 2003 at 01:33

Originally posted by dartie
The Concorde is an awesome aircraft, id like it to keep flying, but signing a petition wont help, it all comes down to the senior executives and other employees to decide its fate, unofrtunately we have to face the fact the Concorde is not flying, a petition will NOT change that fact!!!

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By: dartie - 14th October 2003 at 01:23

The Concorde is an awesome aircraft, id like it to keep flying, but signing a petition wont help, it all comes down to the senior executives and other employees to decide its fate, unofrtunately we have to face the fact the Concorde is not flying, a petition will NOT change that fact!!!

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By: LBARULES - 13th October 2003 at 15:46

Im so glad that someone said that LN Strike Eagle. It was a triumph of European design that no one has been able to match.
How many other things can you say look so good at 34 years old?
Its fantastic and alright I understand its expensive and that its been retired but surely BA should keep a couple for special royal occasions airshows etc etc.

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By: LN Strike Eagle - 13th October 2003 at 15:39

The fact that it wasn’t a huge sucess and didn’t make it commercially just adds to its magic. It is unique, there’s no denying it. If they were as common as 747s – do you honestly believe people would value supersonic flight, and Concorde the way they do now? Not a chance.

Say what yoiu like – it’s a true piece of history, a triumph of this nation over the Americans in the aviation industry. An icon for many generations. It shouldn’t be retired yet, because it’s still years ahead of its time today.

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By: Jay330 - 13th October 2003 at 15:25

I personally think as well that the concorde is old and outdated, however, it will be a sad sight when the last concordes touch down at LHR, however, eventually an airline manufacturer might decide to build another one in years to come, which will be far more safer and cheaper than the current version. Times have changed, and like some people who said, it no longer by pilots deciding what airraft types are flown, but rather accountants.

I will be going to see concorde at Manchester as even though it is getting very old it is still the best aircraft in the skies and it will be a sad sight when it takes off again bound for London Heathrow, times will change and there has being lots of safety concerns about it recently, and if another one did crash, the airline operating it could get lots of bad press for keeping an aircraft that has gone past the end of its life in the skies and placing their customers in danger.

But who knows what the future may bring, hopefully another supersonic passenger aircraft that is affordable to all, and not just the elite or expense accounts.

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By: Mark L - 12th October 2003 at 22:05

This has done the rounds on a few forums and the general consensus from those in the know has been “avoid”. However I do share a bit of everyones view. It was a flawed idea after the first £100 million, it keeps breaking down, but there isn’t anything else that comes remotely close. This feeling is tearing me apart. ARGH!

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By: kev35 - 12th October 2003 at 21:12

Firstly, I don’t think it is childish, but I believe it is misguided. Concorde is finished, past its sell by date, a fading symbol of something that never really came to fruition. A supersonic airliner? Everyone will want Concorde, well, that wasn’t true was it? How many were built? It’s never been affordable other than to an elite few, it’s an icon of everything that went wrong with the British Aircraft Industry.

I won’t go to see its final flights, I won’t buy any of the souvenirs, I certainly won’t shed any tears. I just hope nothing goes wrong in its last two weeks of service.

Regards,

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By: Selsport69 - 12th October 2003 at 21:03

Sandy well said bud, I agree with everything you said but give the guy a chance. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

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By: Comet - 12th October 2003 at 20:56

Originally posted by Bmused55
I find that a very childish petition and will be asking it be removed.

The reason Concorde is going now is that

1) BA need to save money, and Concorde is bleeding a lot of it away

2) The want Concorde to go out when its still on top. So that we remember her as the great flying machine she is. Not for a rundown aircraft,.. which will happen if she conitnues flying and gets older. As mechanical issue will arise more and more, and the media will just destroy the image of Concorde.

Anyone who signs that petition is just plain ignorant.

I say its good she goes out while she is still the best.

R.I.P. concorde, you deserve it.

Well said. I agree with every word you’ve written!!!

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By: MSR777 - 12th October 2003 at 18:47

Done! Lets save the beast!!

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By: Bmused55 - 12th October 2003 at 15:30

I find that a very childish petition and will be asking it be removed.

The reason Concorde is going now is that

1) BA need to save money, and Concorde is bleeding a lot of it away

2) The want Concorde to go out when its still on top. So that we remember her as the great flying machine she is. Not for a rundown aircraft,.. which will happen if she conitnues flying and gets older. As mechanical issue will arise more and more, and the media will just destroy the image of Concorde.

Anyone who signs that petition is just plain ignorant.

I say its good she goes out while she is still the best.

R.I.P. concorde, you deserve it.

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By: KabirT - 12th October 2003 at 14:01

done.

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