School kids smoking – again?

Don’t agree one bit SNAFU, when you retire, I bet you a pound to a pinch of the proverbial, you wouldn’t be able to live on the State Pension alone.
Thinking of number one?. no, just common sense in making sure that when I retired, I would have enough to live the life I do, without having to rely on handouts.
Have you noticed just how many “Food Banks” there are in this Country of late?.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

Agree or don’t agree – up to you, but SOME people get nothing more than state pension, some couldn’t afford to take on an additional pension, some have been shafted by their employers, some didn’t/couldn’t work or have been married & divorced without building up the necessary number of stamps. For those people there is no choice but to rely on what the government hands out – no choice – but that doesn’t seem to be of much interest around here (hence number one).
As for food banks, who do you think needs food banks? People who can’t afford food, maybe? Like, as an example. down on their luck single pension pensioners…? And what did they do when they worked – shop assistants, farm workers, road maintenance, building and decorating, in fact anything that couldn’t let them put anything away for a rainy post work afterlife. Who cares for them? Not you lot, it seems…

Indeed so Linc, but it’s handy when taxpayers top up the superannuated scheme!! As a freelance for much of my working life I never indulged and probably regret it now although I’ve never been one for regrets. It is what it is!

Chas, I am sure if SNAFU would like 11.5% of his wages paid into a pension fund ie, Superannuation for 30yrs as I did.or such like, then he would also benefit. Out of my 3 children, it’s only my son who has a Private pension scheme in hand.
It’s not a Club for the exclusive Chas, anyone can join.And YES, I still pay Income Tax on my pension.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

But you get both, Linc. Yes for those who either had to contribute or opted to contribute topped up by the employer you will enjoy a more comfortable retirement. But those in public service had their pension pots topped up by – guess who? – the taxpayer! And the taxpayer continues to contribute to many public employees’ pensions.

Don’t agree one bit SNAFU, when you retire, I bet you a pound to a pinch of the proverbial, you wouldn’t be able to live on the State Pension alone.
Thinking of number one?. no, just common sense in making sure that when I retired, I would have enough to live the life I do, without having to rely on handouts.
Have you noticed just how many “Food Banks” there are in this Country of late?.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

But that won’t help everyone, which was my thinking.

Always thinking of number one, and only number one, you lot…

Smoking good news: the more who smoke proportionally the more who die who I don’t have to share my pension with.
Smoking bad news: the more who smoke proportionally the more that die who won’t help contribute to my pension

You could always take out your own private pension SNAFU, rather than relying on others to contribute to the State Pension.I did.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

And if children grow up with no comprehension of discipline and rights and responsibilities what sort of parents will they be??

Exactly Chas.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

Smoking news – good/bad? Tobacco taxes contribute £12.5 billion to the treasury annually. No tobacco tax = revenue shortfall!!

Smoking good news: the more who smoke proportionally the more who die who I don’t have to share my pension with.
Smoking bad news: the more who smoke proportionally the more that die who won’t help contribute to my pension.

Bu33er.

And still they throw their dog ends out of car windows and on the floor; why is it that you are instantly an antisocial litterer caring little about the world the rest of us also live in?

Worse than average BUT it will be a descending spiral to lower the level of average overall.

I wonder what the smoking levels will be in 10 years.The amount of people that have given up in the last 5 years or so is huge but i suppose you will have the new smokers who will try it and the hard core smokers who just wont give up.
I also wonder how much a packet of fags will end up as,maybe room for a less addictive alternative that is legal in most places.

Average ones?

And if children grow up with no comprehension of discipline and rights and responsibilities what sort of parents will they be??

And that’s the trouble Chas, the schools can’t administer punishment, and the kids, have a “Help line” they can phone, if their parents give them a bat round the ear, whether it’s justified or not.
Far, far too much P.C. going on, in just about everything one can think of.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

“….nowadays teachers can’t say boo to their pupils…”. Yes that is the root of this and every other problem involving discipline at school.

One teacher I knew (at school 1950s) made them smoke the whole packet one after the other .Not many reoffenders!!Of course nowadays teachers cant say Boo to their pupils.Well I got the cane many times and for smoking but it didn’t do me any harm.Old fashioned thinking?Maybe but it worked .

education never really worked when I was at school, and it doesn’t appear to work these days either if the number of kids smoking outside the school gates these days is anything to go by.

I guess they have to try something,something controlled with education is better than nothing.The kids who want to smoke are going to anyway,hopefully the health lessons will convince them and others how stupid they are being.