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ScotAirways to fly as CityJet/Air France franchise carrier
Graham Dunn, London (16Aug07, 16:23 GMT, 257 words)

UK regional carrier ScotAirways is to stop operating scheduled services in its own right from next month, instead continuing to fly its existing services from London City Airport as an Air France/CityJet franchise carrier.

The regional carrier this month ended its flights from Southampton to Amsterdam, leaving it a network comprising high-rotation flights from London City to Edinburgh and Dundee.

ScotAirways, since March, has already been codesharing with Air France/CityJet on these routes. Now from next month it will operate these flights on behalf of Irish carrier CityJet as part of its ‘CityJet for Air France’ network out of London City Airport.

“We are coming out of scheduled services in our own right from 2 September and from 3 September will start operations as a CityJet/Air France franchise airline,” explains a ScotAirways spokesman. He stresses the airline will continue to operate its existing aircraft and routes.

ScotAirways’ scheduled services comprise seven daily weekday flights from London City to Edinburgh – six using Dornier 328 turboprops and one rotation with a BAE Systems Avro RJ85s – and four daily flights to Dundee.

Air France subsidiary CityJet already operates to seven destinations – Belfast, Dublin, Geneva, Madrid, Nice, Paris Orly and Zurich – from London City Airport as part of its CityJet for Air France network.

CityJet CEO Geoffrey O’Byrne White says: “We’re very happy to be expanding our CityJet for Air France network. As an Irish airline we feel a natural affinity with Scotland, and we already connect Edinburgh with Paris, so we are delighted to be adding to our Scottish network.”

Source: Air Transport Intelligence news

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By: Ren Frew - 18th August 2007 at 02:10

Thanks for the very informative post egpx…
Does seem strange that they sold the stake on in order to focus on buses, especially when they have now formed a partnership with Virgin Trains to bid for the East-Coast Mainline rail franchise!

If they had kept the stake in ScotAirways, all they would of needed was a stake in a shipping related company to cover all aspects of transport (road, rail, sea and air)!:rolleyes:

I imagine Ann (new money) Gloag was too busy in Scottish courts attempting to redefine the laws of trespass in respect of her “castle” to give a monkeys…?

Her brother, Brian Soutar* is nothing but a slimey little bus driver made good and is best kept out of the aviation business as much as possible. I’m not surprised the Sucklings wanted their airline back, and equally as non surprised they’ve found it difficult to retain autonomous control…

* The opinions of the author do not (necessarily) reflect those of the host..:D

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By: cloud_9 - 17th August 2007 at 13:30

90% of the original Suckling Airways was bought by Brian Souter and Ann Gloag who run the Stagecoach transportation empire. They rebranded it ScotAirways. That share was sold back to the Sucklings last year when Souter and Gloag decided to concentrate on their core business, ie buses. The name ScotAirways was retained as virtually all of their routes were from Edinburgh or Dundee. However, the RT cllsign ‘Suckling’ remained in all its different incarnations.

Thanks for the very informative post egpx…

That share was sold back to the Sucklings last year when Souter and Gloag decided to concentrate on their core business, ie buses.

Does seem strange that they sold the stake on in order to focus on buses, especially when they have now formed a partnership with Virgin Trains to bid for the East-Coast Mainline rail franchise!

If they had kept the stake in ScotAirways, all they would of needed was a stake in a shipping related company to cover all aspects of transport (road, rail, sea and air)!:rolleyes:

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By: egpx - 17th August 2007 at 13:24

90% of the original Suckling Airways was bought by Brian Souter and Ann Gloag who run the Stagecoach transportation empire. They rebranded it ScotAirways. That share was sold back to the Sucklings last year when Souter and Gloag decided to concentrate on their core business, ie buses. The name ScotAirways was retained as virtually all of their routes were from Edinburgh or Dundee. However, the RT cllsign ‘Suckling’ remained in all its different incarnations.

Personally I won’t be sad to see the back of the Dorniers if they are replaced. chugging along at 300 knots at FL270 means they don’t half get in the way of the faster stuff. :rolleyes:

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By: dodrums - 17th August 2007 at 13:24

I know they sold a large stake in the company to some Scottish investors (can’t remember who

you are thinking of Brian Souter, co-founder of Stagecoach,

A couple of our instructors fly the Do328 for ScotAirways, hope things work out for them.

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By: cloud_9 - 17th August 2007 at 13:08

Noooo….I cannot believe it!:eek:

Am I right in thinking that Roy and Merylin Suckling still own ScotAirways?

I know they sold a large stake in the company to some Scottish investors (can’t remember who?), and then I remember reading an article in Airliner World stating that they had decided to buy back the stake.

Now that they are becoming a franchise of CityJet/AF, will they have a stake in the holding company?

I did also heard a rumour that they were considering changing it back to Suckling Airways at one point after they had bought back the stake, but now that they will be a franchise of CityJet/AF, there is no chance of that…:mad:

Oh and I hope they keep the Dornier 328’s.

Don’t worry James; according to a ScotAirways spokesman:

…the airline will continue to operate its existing aircraft and routes.

I do like the Do328, but I prefer the jet engine version instead of the prop!

The other airline that I like that operates this type of aircraft is Welcome Air – love their livery(see below)!:D

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1216674&WxsIERv=Snvepuvyq%20Qbeavre%20328WRG-300&Wm=1&WdsYXMg=Jrypbzr%20Nve&QtODMg=Obymnab%20%28-%20Qbybzvgv%20%2F%20T.%20Fnoryyv%29%20%28OMB%20%2F%20YVCO%29&ERDLTkt=Vgnyl&ktODMp=Znl%2021%2C%202007&BP=0&WNEb25u=Fgrsnab%20Pnchmmb%20-%20FcbgVG&xsIERvdWdsY=BR-YWE&MgTUQtODMgKE=&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=847&NEb25uZWxs=2007-05-28%2015%3A26%3A26&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=3213&static=yes&width=1024&height=780&sok=JURER%20%20%28nveyvar%20%3D%20%27Jrypbzr%20Nve%27%29%20%20BEQRE%20OL%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=6&prev_id=1221689&next_id=1213193

ScotAirways’ scheduled services comprise seven daily weekday flights from London City to Edinburgh – six using Dornier 328 turboprops and one rotation with a BAE Systems Avro RJ85s – and four daily flights to Dundee.

rdc1000, do you think that if they were to replace the Do328’s that the Avro RJ85’s would be the best choice in order to increase capacity, seeing as one of their flights is already operated by one of these type of aircraft…?

Although ScotAirways will exist as a company, the corporate identity on its aircraft will disappear and be replaced by either the Air France livery, or, more likely, the new CityJet livery… http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1217641/M/.

Urgh…that new CityJet livery is so…well, boring!

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By: egpx - 17th August 2007 at 13:06

Could this be the end of the ‘Suckling’ callsign? Bit of a shame if it is. ‘City Ireland’ doesn’t have the same ring to it 😡

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By: rdc1000 - 17th August 2007 at 12:41

So will it stay as ScotAirways and take it its Southampton flights will be stopped? Oh and I hope they keep the Dornier 328’s.
James

The closure of the Southampton-Amsterdam service was announced last week anyway, so yes, all flights to SOU will be stopped. At this stage they will only operate the two services from LCY.

Although ScotAirways will exist as a company, the corporate identity on its aircraft will disappear and be replaced by either the Air France livery, or, more likely, the new CityJet livery… http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1217641/M/ .

As for the DO328, I suspect there are plans to replace these anyway at some point, it would make sense to increase capacity.

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By: Manston Airport - 17th August 2007 at 11:26

So will it stay as ScotAirways and take it its Southampton flights will be stopped? Oh and I hope they keep the Dornier 328’s.

James

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