Scrap Light aircraft ??

cor i never knew what a tipsy belfair looked like, !!, just seen some pics on web ,it looks really something specail !!,

my favourite types are the,BA Swallow, Miles ,Hawks etc, even though its military the Magister too,

theres something about those pre war Monoplanes that is very appealing :D.

quite rare these days too I should imagine ! 😀

There is a BA Swallow in my hangar, VH-AAB owned by John Sinclair. Cirrus Minor II powered

cheers

Why not go for something much more interesting! Take a look at this:

http://www.rsafrance.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29

Take a short break, across the channel with a 4×4 and a decent size trailer, and come back with something that will really have the aviation community saying, coo, what’s that!

Oh, but you’ll still need to buy yourself an engine – probably a Salmson, this time!

Here you go Merkle – good starting point for you.http://www.europeanluscombes.org.uk/index.php

Ta very much, Armwaver !!:D

ive found that site last night,, and have enquired about a whole fuselage, all be it a little bent from a Prang a few years ago, Just awaiting chap to get back to me 😉

Here you go Merkle – good starting point for you.http://www.europeanluscombes.org.uk/index.php

Merkle,

And a pair of cockpits for you… HS.125 and a PA.28

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I’d start with the very active Luscombe Owners Club.

Moggy

Ahhh, thanks Moggy !!!

I never knew such a group existed !!!

I will try and conact them ,:D

I’d start with the very active Luscombe Owners Club.

Moggy

Anyone know where I could get a Silvaire instrument panel from,??
or know of a dealer who sells redundant (civil Parts) is there any in the UK, or are they all in the USA ??:confused: things like panels ,sticks ,bits a bobs ??

ahh , thats the cheeper option then, 😀

would love a lycoming, I was suprised at the cost seeing there is so many of that type about,

I have been in contact with a chap who has a fuselage of one, i will find out in a week if he accepts the offer i put in, 😀

I think you’ll find a large % of that price is import duty or some other nasty form of taxation. IIRC the price in the US is about $7-8000 so you can see how much aviators in the UK are getting stung.

Guys. There is no need to quote the entirety of the post you are replying to when it is the one directly above.

Moggy
Moderator

make it smaller, just keep the ‘cockpit’.

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XH174 Storage

I did go and see CANBERRA XH174, she is Just a shell, not even a floor in it,
and it is Massive , the whole reason I let WH887 Go was because of its size,
so this is the reson I would Not buy XH174, also she really is a Tube thats it sadly, and it would take a Major enginneer to refit all the floor etc from scratch. which i am not, and i dont have the tools to do such a thing, and if i had the room for XH174, Why would I have sold WH887??, simply because of Storage etc, to get a good start, i believe a cockpit NEEDS to be near electricity,Lighting , and all the tooling, Just to get it off to a good start, I have that facility, but all be it very small, (just a bit bigger than Roy coates garage “sea Hawk”) just look at how tight it is for his resto in the early days, yet he managed it, I wonder how roy would have faired if he never had access to basic tools, Basic electrical DIY tools ,to at least start the cleaning process.
I didnt take selling WH887 lightly, and will not make the same mistake of fooling myself again,
I Hope this makes my reasoning ,More understandable ,;)

Why not buy XH174 ?

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yes i see your point ,if i had the room and knowledge, i would try a restore a flyer, as it is, I dont hold a pilots licence, and doubt i ever will, I have a interest in old aviation, thats about it really, well anything old, Ive got a old 60s scooter, I like old engines, (ive 3 old stationary engines,Nothing specail but old all the same,
I wish I never did find everything so interesting, My downfall though is severe “Contact Dermatitis” on my fingers on both hands, and i only have to hear the word “OIL” and my hands come out in Blisters ! :eek:, Bloody infuriating, and i have it for life, but i dont have pots of money, infact very meagre really, so I have to buy a project that no one else would want as its all i can afford, hence why i am allways looking at “bargain Basement” stuff,
But i know when i get to work on it, my hands will crack and swell up for a few days afterwards, eve if i wear gloves etc,I have no strength in My hands, which is such a shame as i love tinkering with things 🙁 .
I Have just Bought a Wessex Flight Panel, and plan to restore that with all the clocks, But one day hope to have the “Cab” to put it in !!, Not the whole thing as its too big, But Just the greenhouse, cockpit, as it is small enough to move about, and take to shows etc, all be it a long time away from now.:)

its such a shame after selling my Canberra ,as it took Years to find a cockpit,
but with it being so big i could not do it, i was fooling myself, that swhy i had to sell her so her future was preserved, I just hope with all the wessex that are about on dumps etc, I can secure a cab ,eventually,

Merkle: There is a very good reason why you don’t normally hear of people restoring GA aircraft. It is because it is far cheaper to purchase a serviceable (or just ex-serviceable) one than to restore.

There is a story that a certain Chipmunk cost £100,000 to restore. You can buy a flying one for £30,000! The engine alone is more than 2/3rds the value of the aeroplane.

However, if your passion is restoring rather than flying, then, I know myself, that passion and common sense are not often happy bedfellows!

ahh , thats the cheeper option then, 😀

would love a lycoming, I was suprised at the cost seeing there is so many of that type about,

I have been in contact with a chap who has a fuselage of one, i will find out in a week if he accepts the offer i put in, 😀

You could almost certainly mount a VW engine. Being air cooled like the Lycoming and the same horizontally-opposed flat four format will give you a start.

Moggy

HOW MUCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Crikey HOW MUCH !!!!:eek:

i suppose a old AtCO lawn Mower engine on the front “WONT ” suffice 🙁

is there any other engine that has ever been fitted ??, Ie a VW conversion,
or a small radial, or even a gypsy, “Grasping at straws here ” GULP :eek::(

Being novice with Civvy stuff, I wonder if anyone has a idea what a engine would cost if it was a complete unit, But out of hours, tired and worn out, for use as a ground runner, ie something to fit on a piper, like the Lycoming engine, I imagine there is alot of these about, but have no idea of what sort of price range they fall into

The problem is that an old, knackered etc… has a value.

Lycomings go on for ever. At the service life between 2,000 and 2,500 hours they are basically remanufactured / Zero timed

Either you get your own engine back (The norm) or you get another engine, but your old one forms valuable part exchange, bringing the price of the new one down to a mere £7,000 to £9,000 😮

Moggy

worn out motors

Being novice with Civvy stuff, I wonder if anyone has a idea what a engine would cost if it was a complete unit, But out of hours, tired and worn out, for use as a ground runner, ie something to fit on a piper, like the Lycoming engine, I imagine there is alot of these about, but have no idea of what sort of price range they fall into ,

barnstormers seem full of engines but to buy and transport to the UK is Prohibitive, so i wondered where in the UK you would find this sort of thing,

would such items be sold at aeromarts etc ??
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